Windows 7 Is Sick

[BeeJ]

This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C:
drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the
folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

I had these same type and size files in a folder on my previous Win
Vista install and this never happened. Files always show up
immediately.

So what is going on and how do I fix this?

BTW, defrag says nothing needs to be done.


2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another, the copy speed is dreadfully slow. Based on previous
copies, I expect to see around 30 to 40 MBPS but most times it starts
out fast (I know, buffering) then slows way way down to maybe 50KBPS.
Yes K. I am not doing anything else that consumes CPU cycles. Even
Process Explorer says so.
What is going on here and how do I fix this?
And If I do multiple cut / paste the speed gets worse and does not
recover when one or more finishes. Who wrote this software?

P.S. virus scanner indicates all is well. Running Avast Home (Free
version).

 

[nomail]

This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C:
drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

Disable indexing. IMHO it's worse than useless and possibly the
cause of your problems.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the
folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

[snip]

Pete

 

[Paul]

This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C: drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

I had these same type and size files in a folder on my previous Win
Vista install and this never happened. Files always show up immediately.

So what is going on and how do I fix this?

BTW, defrag says nothing needs to be done.


2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another, the copy speed is dreadfully slow. Based on previous
copies, I expect to see around 30 to 40 MBPS but most times it starts
out fast (I know, buffering) then slows way way down to maybe 50KBPS.
Yes K. I am not doing anything else that consumes CPU cycles. Even
Process Explorer says so.
What is going on here and how do I fix this?
And If I do multiple cut / paste the speed gets worse and does not
recover when one or more finishes. Who wrote this software?

P.S. virus scanner indicates all is well. Running Avast Home (Free
version).

Open Task Manager, and see if there is anything suspicious using lots
of CPU while you're doing this. Windows could be scanning the files
for some reason, and at the same time, the AV software could attempt
to scan the file as well. Using Task Manager, may tell you of the activities
of one of those two.

Right click in the Task Bar at the bottom, and select "Task Manager".
Once it's running, click "show processes for all users" in the lower
right hand corner. Either use that, or use Sysinternals Process Explorer
to gather similar information.

Then, open the folder, do what you were doing etc. Sort the lists
of processes by CPU usage, so the "pig" floats to the top.

Also, if you're viewing that folder in "Thumbnail" view... stop doing that
Making a thumbnail, may require scanning the files individually. The
last time I tried that in Windows, it used resources like crazy and I
had to stop it (I just System Restored myself out of it to save time).

I just copied a folder full of VOB files over to my Win7 laptop,
and didn't notice any untoward behavior, so I wasn't able to
reproduce the problem here.

Paul

 

[Paul]

Once it's running, click "show processes for all users" in the lower
right hand corner.

That could be the "lower left hand corner". Don't know my right from
my other one.

Paul

 

[Monica]

I don't know if it's Windows or my new computer but it's definitely slower
than my XP (32bit) machine, Quad 6600 2.40GHz and 3GB of RAM).
I've got a 2nd Generation i7 2600, quad 3.4GHz and 12GB RAM and and this
brand new Win7 Premium 64-bit machine runs slower I've whittled down the
startup folder and disabled some services. Don't see enough of an
improvement to even
mention. However, I just disabled indexing as was suggested and wow! things
just got snappier
I just did several searches with indexing disabled and if anything saw an
improvement in speed
AND...my web browsing is even faster
But, I had indexing enabled on my XP machine and the things were still
snappy after 3 years. Go figure.
Now if I could afford a ssd, this machine would set world records <lol>
beeJ, hope you give this a try.
THANK YOU nomail!

"BeeJ" wrote in message
This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C:
drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the
folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

I had these same type and size files in a folder on my previous Win
Vista install and this never happened. Files always show up
immediately.

 

[Monica]

Does Windows Search in Services need to be disabled?

"Monica" wrote in message

I don't know if it's Windows or my new computer but it's definitely slower
than my XP (32bit) machine, Quad 6600 2.40GHz and 3GB of RAM).
I've got a 2nd Generation i7 2600, quad 3.4GHz and 12GB RAM and and this
brand new Win7 Premium 64-bit machine runs slower I've whittled down the
startup folder and disabled some services. Don't see enough of an
improvement to even
mention. However, I just disabled indexing as was suggested and wow! things
just got snappier
I just did several searches with indexing disabled and if anything saw an
improvement in speed
AND...my web browsing is even faster
But, I had indexing enabled on my XP machine and the things were still
snappy after 3 years. Go figure.
Now if I could afford a ssd, this machine would set world records <lol>
beeJ, hope you give this a try.
THANK YOU nomail!

"BeeJ" wrote in message
This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C:
drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the
folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

I had these same type and size files in a folder on my previous Win
Vista install and this never happened. Files always show up
immediately.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

BeeJ wrote: []

maybe 50KBPS. Yes K. I am not doing anything else that consumes CPU
cycles. Even Process Explorer says so.

[]
right hand corner. Either use that, or use Sysinternals Process Explorer
to gather similar information.

[]
(-:

 

[Antares 531]

This is a Quad 3.2GHz, AMD, 8G RAM, Win7 Pro 64bit PC.

1) I have several dozen multi-gigabyte files in a folder on the C:
drive.
I have in Properties, set to allow indexing of the C: drive.

When I click on the folder, it shows that there are no files in the
folder.
Then several minutes later, the files show up.
This happens every time if try to open this folder.

I had these same type and size files in a folder on my previous Win
Vista install and this never happened. Files always show up
immediately.

So what is going on and how do I fix this?

BTW, defrag says nothing needs to be done.


2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another, the copy speed is dreadfully slow. Based on previous
copies, I expect to see around 30 to 40 MBPS but most times it starts
out fast (I know, buffering) then slows way way down to maybe 50KBPS.
Yes K. I am not doing anything else that consumes CPU cycles. Even
Process Explorer says so.
What is going on here and how do I fix this?
And If I do multiple cut / paste the speed gets worse and does not
recover when one or more finishes. Who wrote this software?

P.S. virus scanner indicates all is well. Running Avast Home (Free
version).

Could this be a hard drive related problem? That is, maybe your hard
drive is nearing failure and has to be read and re-read several times
to get to the files you've selected. If you have more than one hard
drive, check the second one and compare it to the one that is giving
trouble. Gordon

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT:
That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to delete the
source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.

My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

 

[Char Jackson]

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT:
That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to delete the
source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.

My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

Behind the scenes, 'move' is basically 'copy then delete'. If the copy
operation is aborted for any reason, the source remains intact. I
believe it has always been that way, meaning I'm not aware of any
version of Windows that got it wrong by design.

 

[KCB]

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT:
That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to delete the
source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.

My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

Behind the scenes, 'move' is basically 'copy then delete'. If the copy
operation is aborted for any reason, the source remains intact. I
believe it has always been that way, meaning I'm not aware of any
version of Windows that got it wrong by design.

Yea, cut/paste is no big deal; I do it all the time to MOVE files.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT: That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to delete
the source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.

My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

I don't see that Windows is under any obligation to wait for a paste
operation. Cut means move to clipboard. Nothing more. Paste means copy
from clipboard. They are independent operations. If you want to move
material from one place to another, use the drag and drop "move" option.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT: That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to
delete
the source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.
My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

I don't see that Windows is under any obligation to wait for a paste
operation. Cut means move to clipboard. Nothing more. Paste means copy
from clipboard. They are independent operations. If you want to move
material from one place to another, use the drag and drop "move" option.

Can't speak for 7, but certainly in '9x and XP, cut and paste _of files
in Windows Explorer_ is treated somewhat differently - i. e. as a move
(copy then delete). If they're huge files, one would expect "cut" to
take a noticeable time if they were being copied to the clipboard
(they'd have to be read in their entirety for a start), but they don't -
try it. (If the paste is to somewhere on the _same_ drive, I don't think
any actual move of data takes place, only movement of pointers - the
same applying to moving by dragging.)

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:13:46 -0700, BeeJ wrote:

2) When I try to move files (Windows Explorer Cut / Paste) from one
drive to another [...]

OT:
That is scary. I wonder if Windows would be dumb enough to delete the
source material before the paste is known to have succeeded.

My paranoia suggests copy, then delete only after all is known to be
good.

Behind the scenes, 'move' is basically 'copy then delete'. If the copy
operation is aborted for any reason, the source remains intact. I
believe it has always been that way, meaning I'm not aware of any
version of Windows that got it wrong by design.

Yea, cut/paste is no big deal; I do it all the time to MOVE files.

Thanks, Char and KCB.

I had no evidence for my opinion, only paranoia

 

[BeeJ]

I turned indexing off on the C: drive and now I am waiting and waiting
and waiting for it to finish. Looks like it is scanning every file on
C: to do something to each and every file.

 

[Zaidy036]

I turned indexing off on the C: drive and now I am waiting and waiting
and waiting for it to finish. Looks like it is scanning every file on C:
to do something to each and every file.

type Index into Start search box and choose Indexing Options

In the resulting GUI select Modify and uncheck everything