Windows 7 Freezing

[Freezingassassin]

This has started happening to me just today and 2 times already. these are my specs
Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory:
6144MB RAM
Hard Drive:
640 GB
Video Card:
ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Sound Card:
Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)
Operating System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
Motherboard:
Asus P6T Deluxe
Computer Case:
HAF

So before i was Livestreaming and playing a sc2 game with things open in the background,(google chrome, itunes, ventrillo/skpe, livestream procaster) and all the sudden during the game it would freeze. Nothing would bring it out. I tried ctrl alt delte esc everything. Then it happened again just now when i had sc2 running, the procaster, and all that stuff but i was browsing facebook.

I also have a dual monitor setup.Maybe the dual monitor is effecting it? since before iwas doing this same exact thing but w/o the dual monitor.

This also happened after i updated my ati graphics driver.
And im also having bluescreens.
More frequent ones are SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT.
The freezing is my main concern but if you could also help with bsods that would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

 

[PostStrata]

EDIT: to clear any misunderstanding... My pc Completely Freezes... nothing works, nothing moves.. I have to hold the power button to shut it off. I only get the Freezing. I never got an error popup or anything along those lines. Just freezing here.


I have the same exact problem, except I think my problem is more escalated than yours as my PC freezes on startup(on the password screen even) also in safe mode... so I'm assuming its a windows Drivers issue or a registry issue.

I also use Sc2 and Livestream Procaster... but so does my brother(the pc I'm using right now to post this).

At first I would notice windows about to freeze while playing SC2(doing the machine gun sound thing) for a split second then it would go back to normal. I have only streamed once and have not attempted to stream video again.

My specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.10GHz (4 CPUs, 8 Threads via HyperThreading)
Memory: OCZ 6 GB RAM
Hard Drive: Western Digital 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD
Video Card: EVGA Nvidia GeForce 460 SE 1 GB
Sound: Integrated Realtek ALC889
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Motherboard: GIGABYTE X58A-UD3R
Computer Case: HAF 932
Mouse: Razer Imperator

Power Settings: High Performance
Msconfig: All startup services are off except windows startup service.
And I still freeze at startup in the Windows Welcome Screen.

Everything is default settings with the latest updates and Drivers. I can get into Safe mode before it freezes after 5 min but in regular mode it freezes instantly at startup. This doesn't happen to my brother and he has the same exact specs as me except he has an ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB and a standard Dynex optical mouse and a G15 keyboard. my brother also has Livestream procaster and SC2, and he also streams constantly.

My assumptions:

- SC2 screwed up our registry somehow, although probably unlikely
- My mouse driver is causing this... although the machine gun sound (almost freezing of my PC) happened before I even got my mouse. I also had a standard(windows Drivers) optical mouse before the Razer one.
- Livestream could have screwed up the Registry... more likely than SC2 causing this.
- Some Driver is screwing things up...
- Our case is causing the Problem.... if thats even possible... lol
-???


I'll let you know if anything works. Then perhaps we can game on SC2

 

[N9ZN]

Greetings all,

I am curious if memory was added or changed? Sometimes when adding memory to a motherboard voltagers have to be raised in a few areas within your BIOS to make things work right. This is because the memory is using more current with additional memory in the system.

Please do not start just randomly making changes in this area if you are not familiar with BIOS setting and how they affect you PC. Some changes can be harmful if voltages are moved to far, so you really do need to understand this area of the PC and / or seek help from others.

 

[N9ZN]

This has started happening to me just today and 2 times already. these are my specs
Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory:
6144MB RAM
Hard Drive:
640 GB
Video Card:
ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Sound Card:
Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)
Operating System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
Motherboard:
Asus P6T Deluxe
Computer Case:
HAF

So before i was Livestreaming and playing a sc2 game with things open in the background,(google chrome, itunes, ventrillo/skpe, livestream procaster) and all the sudden during the game it would freeze. Nothing would bring it out. I tried ctrl alt delte esc everything. Then it happened again just now when i had sc2 running, the procaster, and all that stuff but i was browsing facebook.

I also have a dual monitor setup.Maybe the dual monitor is effecting it? since before iwas doing this same exact thing but w/o the dual monitor.

This also happened after i updated my ati graphics driver.
And im also having bluescreens.
More frequent ones are SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT.
The freezing is my main concern but if you could also help with bsods that would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

In your case I would go back to the prior graphics driver you had installed. I myself have had a bad driver cause simialr things as well as severe overheating of the graphics board core. Revert back and see if this stops the problem.

At times it can be difficult to remove all traces of driver installations. You may have to use driver sweeper, and go into control panel under programs and features and duninstall the driver you loaded. After which you should reboot, let windows load the generic driver or one it picks, and then reload your old driver. Reboot and see if this is cured.

 

[PostStrata]

I've had this PC for about a month now and have not added or changed any hardware. It's the same it has been for a while except I installed a new mouse with its own drivers (had it for about a week and a half with no problems).

I really think its a driver problem... now its not freezing at all in safe mode now after I disabled all unnecessary services.... I still get the freeze on the welcome screen but at a later point Now. Perhaps I'm getting somewhere...

I just don't want to resort to doing a clean reinstall. I also already tried to repair windows using the install disc.

Next on my list to do unless someone suggests otherwise:

- Mess around with msconfig services again... and use process of elimination to pinpoint the cause
- do a clean reinstall(easy way out, not ideal though... I want to know the problem) and hope it fixes the problem
- mope in the sadness of my tragedy and settle for Safe mode windows 7

any help will be much appreciated

 

[PostStrata]

Well... I got in... so far no freezing. I just disabled my graphics Drivers...

 

[PostStrata]

It turns out my problem is far more grand than I thought!!!

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401

Incompatability issue with my Graphics Card and Motherboard.... I'm 99% sure this is my problem... *frustration*

Freezing Assassin probably has a graphics related problem too though. Just not what I have I'm assuming.

 

[N9ZN]

It turns out my problem is far more grand than I thought!!!

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401

Incompatability issue with my Graphics Card and Motherboard.... I'm 99% sure this is my problem... *frustration*

Freezing Assassin probably has a graphics related problem too though. Just not what I have I'm assuming.

Many freezing issues are indeed graphics related. Personally I had an issue with a well know high end build I don't want to mention the name of (ALIE????? ! You have to give this some thought to figure it out ) that left a GPU underpowered in one of my PCs. Shame on them they should have know better (where were the educated technicians?) for the money they received to build the PC. Even when questioned they denied it and went on to say the PC had the capacity to install yet another GPU which would enable QUAD SLI mode. At this point I trust no one other than myself.

Can you even imagine having a PC running underpowered for 3 years while you battle a builder until it is obsolete. That is a shameful waste at its worst!

Of course I deserve some kind of stupidity award for letting it go on that long. Knowing that I must share part of the blame for the computer go obsolete before it was fixed, there should be a large DUH tottoed on my forehead.

GPU related issues manifest themselves as many things (which is why I wrote the above), I find it hard to believe that all of those mother boards are having problems with fermi. I would bet some of the issues may be something as simple as SPP voltage set to low in BIOS. Another large part could be people relying on PSU wattage ratings instead of GPU current requirements (something you have to search for). From here the list of potential problem areas goes on and on. Understand one reason I waited so long was that I kept seeing the same symptoms I had tied to other problems. Like so many others I resigned myself to thinking the issue was anything but what it really was. When that occured I quit investigating other areas agressively and waited far to long to fix the problem.

If you see a PC with the same symptoms mark that down as a potential cause and avoid the "THAT'S IT SYNDROME".

Start with the basics, check the current from the PSU and the GPU requirements. After that is satisfied make sure everything is clean with fans working and TIM fresh. Then install one GPU and work the system to get it running, remember to look over your BIOS settings for anything underpowered. Get active in the GPU forums for manufacturers and the chip builder.

One of the best pieces of advice here is to visit the manufacturers site for the GPU and register in the forum. EVGA has an excellent site with many knowledgeable system builders to help owners of their cards. Some other manufacturers have forums as well. Even if your GPU is not an EVGA card they can and will still help in the forums up to the limits their knowledge permits.

EDIT: One way to know if an Nvidia based GPU will run with your motherboard is to seek out a motherboard with the SLI Ready logo attached. I wish I could help you more right now but the truth is you need to talk to the motherboard builder and a knowledgeable GPU forum about the NVIDIA card. You may get lucky and find someone here that has the answer, I am sure it has happened before with issues. You never know until you try.

 

[N9ZN]

EDIT: to clear any misunderstanding... My pc Completely Freezes... nothing works, nothing moves.. I have to hold the power button to shut it off. I only get the Freezing. I never got an error popup or anything along those lines. Just freezing here.


I have the same exact problem, except I think my problem is more escalated than yours as my PC freezes on startup(on the password screen even) also in safe mode... so I'm assuming its a windows Drivers issue or a registry issue.

I also use Sc2 and Livestream Procaster... but so does my brother(the pc I'm using right now to post this).

At first I would notice windows about to freeze while playing SC2(doing the machine gun sound thing) for a split second then it would go back to normal. I have only streamed once and have not attempted to stream video again.

My specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.10GHz (4 CPUs, 8 Threads via HyperThreading)
Memory: OCZ 6 GB RAM
Hard Drive: Western Digital 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD
Video Card: EVGA Nvidia GeForce 460 SE 1 GB
Sound: Integrated Realtek ALC889
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Motherboard: GIGABYTE X58A-UD3R
Computer Case: HAF 932
Mouse: Razer Imperator

Power Settings: High Performance
Msconfig: All startup services are off except windows startup service.
And I still freeze at startup in the Windows Welcome Screen.

Everything is default settings with the latest updates and Drivers. I can get into Safe mode before it freezes after 5 min but in regular mode it freezes instantly at startup. This doesn't happen to my brother and he has the same exact specs as me except he has an ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB and a standard Dynex optical mouse and a G15 keyboard. my brother also has Livestream procaster and SC2, and he also streams constantly.

My assumptions:

- SC2 screwed up our registry somehow, although probably unlikely
- My mouse driver is causing this... although the machine gun sound (almost freezing of my PC) happened before I even got my mouse. I also had a standard(windows Drivers) optical mouse before the Razer one.
- Livestream could have screwed up the Registry... more likely than SC2 causing this.
- Our case is causing the Problem.... if thats even possible... lol
-???


I'll let you know if anything works. Then perhaps we can game on SC2

EDIT: I actually wrote this first and it never made it to you for some reason. I went ahead and sent it since it could be the cause but at this time I am not certain if this has not been handled with newer PCs. This came up on a unit which had a few years on it. I did not include that part in my writing and I should have, it is important. I am going to try a BIOS clear to see if this will resolve the problem on my end, if so all the better but no gurantee on that.

The problem is your case? That made me chuckle :lol: we all know it had to be Santa going down the chimney that caused your system to mildly overheat. (Dont get mad Im just playing along with you here.)

Over the holidays I got involved in a one on one with the developer of Real Temp, an online, downloadable, highly respected, widely used PC temperature monitoring program.

The conversation we had delt with a bug I found on a windows PC (which the Real Temp Author found first) which has carried over to many temperature monitoring programs. As it turns out Real Temp seems to be free of this bug as they have worked around it. Most other temp monitoring programs have not done this yet.

As the conversation went on the problem potential for processors which utilize HYPER THREADING developed and were noted as potentially using the wrong core to process some of the threads. This could create locks in programs if this indeed is occuring. This could be why you are seeing what you see. At this point I can not say for sure.

The problem I discovered occurs when the BIOS assigns an APIC ID other than 0123 for a quad core and anything other than a sequential number series for other CPUs. When the APIC ID is not in sequence programs selecting core 1 of a processor for example may actually select core 2 , 3, etc depending on the number of cores available. The only way to avoid this is to open a core, query it, and see if it is the correct core to select before processing the thread. It is doubtful programs using Hyper Threading are going through the motions to insure they are selecting the correct core to process a thread. The solution is to fix APIC ID so it never goes non sequential.

Presently I am in the process of notifying, Microsoft, Intel, APIC, BIOS manufacturers, and a host of companies who are producing bad results due to landing on an incorrect core.

Note: This may or may not be your problem, at this time it is undetermined how many PC owners are affected by this bug as well as the number of programs processing multiple threads in error as a result. This error may have been submitted and resolved, if so the fix has never made it to me. I update frequently, including BIOS, so it should be resolved if it was handled.

 

[Freezingassassin]

Id also like to add that since I stopped using dual monitor setup its not freezing while i play sc2 and livestream. Maybe it was too much for one video card since they both use alot on thier own?.

Also i completly built my computer on my own and im getting really botherd by these BSOD. it has something to do with my drivers i just don't know how to fix it since i am not that computer literate. I get 3.
1 randomly occurs and its a SYSTEM_SERVCE_EXCPETIOIN
2 usually when im watcjing a movie in VLC player. MEMRORY_MANAGEMENT
3 just recently been getting this one and its pretty random its a Stop 0x0000008E
(im not sure how many 0's there are but thats basically how it looks, and the stop is more frequent and the system service is less frequent)

Thanks for the help so far

Edit:hit me up with your character code and name, Im goon.579 in diamond 2700

And it crashed again without the dual monitor setup so maybe it is something with the graphics card? I dont knwo -_-