Win7-no more Outlook Express

[PE]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
for separate identities without having to go through the
logoff/logbackin hassels. Thanks,

OE was last used with XP. Vista has Windows Mail. The successor to both
programs is:

Windows Live Mail
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

However, like Windows Mail, it doesn't support multiple identities.

I believe Thunderbird supports multiple identities. At least it used to.

Thunderbird:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

How to Import Mail from Outlook Express in Mozilla Thunderbird:
http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et122305.htm

 

[KCB]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
for separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

In OE, go to Tools/Accounts, select which account you want to transfer, then
click Export. A *.iaf file will be generated. Do this for each account you
want to transfer. Windows Live Mail can import these files to re-create
your account(s). In WLM, go to Tools/Accounts, then click the Import
button. Browse to the .iaf file, and you're done.

Your email messages can be imported into WLM by clicking the File Menu,
Import/Messages. Browse to the folder that contains your .dbx files from
OE, then follow the directions. If you're not sure where your .dbx files
are for OE, then click Tools/Options, select the Maintenance Tab, then click
the Store Folder button. The path can be copied from that window and placed
on the Run line to open the folder.

 

[Dick Mahar]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
for separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

Thunderbird is OK by me, I am using it without complaint. Download and
setup from the Mozilla site. However, I would prefer to be using OE, but
there ain't no mo. There are some decent web based programs, such as Yahoo.
I think that it will accomodate multiple users. I have heard that if you
lay out the big bucks to MS for OUTLOOK, you can get OE back. I personally
don't like Live mail, and once downloaded it is very difficult, if not
impossible, to flush it out of your computer

 

[Canuck57]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

Thunderbird:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/

Works well with ISPs, Google etc. Even news groups.

 

[Ken Blake]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

Outlook Express has been gone for several years. Windows XP was the
last version of Windows to include it.

Windows Vista had Windows Mail as its replacement (it's essentially a
newer version of Outlook Express), but that is also gone in Windows 7
(however it can by brought into Windows 7 from a Windows Vista
machine).

Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
likes best. There are many choices available, both from Microsoft and
from third-parties. Some are free and some are for sale. Microsoft has
Windows Live Mail (which is essentially also a newer version of
Outlook Express/Windows Mail, with still another new name) available
for download for free and Outlook (a
different program from outlook express) available for sale, either
alone or as part of Microsoft Office.

Some people will tell you to use Windows Live Mail; others will tell
you to use Thunderbird; still others may have other recommendations.
My advice is to ignore all such recommendations. I personally use
Microsoft Outlook for e-mail and FortÊ Agent for newsgroups, but you
should try several and choose what *you* like best, rather than make
your decision based on what I, or anyone else, likes best (or even
what Microsoft suggests).


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

 

[Trimble Bracegirdle]

Thanks muchley KCB ..
I have fought this Battle & your export / import instructions are the
clearest ...
I have seen
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") mouse (Ain't He Sweet !)

 

[PE]

Ken, everyone was free to try other options even when MS was supporting OE.
And personally, I was content to use it for both email and newsgroups. I
use Outlook at work and think it's overkill for what I need at home. So now
I have to waste valuable time taking your advice to sample and learn to use
other programs, when I would have been perfectly happy to stay with OE.

 

[Canuck57]

Ken, everyone was free to try other options even when MS was supporting OE.
And personally, I was content to use it for both email and newsgroups. I
use Outlook at work and think it's overkill for what I need at home. So now
I have to waste valuable time taking your advice to sample and learn to use
other programs, when I would have been perfectly happy to stay with OE.

But Microsoft thinks it knows better.

Just finished doing some file maintenance on XP, Vista and Win 7, wonder
when Microsoft is going ot stablize its menus. Some stuff alsways seems
to be in a different place for no reason.

 

[Death]

But Microsoft thinks it knows better.

Just finished doing some file maintenance on XP, Vista and Win 7, wonder
when Microsoft is going ot stablize its menus. Some stuff alsways seems
to be in a different place for no reason.

Install a linux distro.
Do you have firefox, or epiphany, or konqueror?
What .iso burner?
What mp3 player...none, really, you gotta "make" that.
Amarok, Banshee, Audacious, XMMS, Rythmbox?
All suck in their own way.

Where do firefox plugins go?
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
/usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/plugin?
/usr/java/default/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so?
And yet not in /usr/lib/firefox-3.6?
Gotta create symbolic links?
What?

Talk about a fing mess.
../makes no sense.

Windows still makes sense.

 

[Ken Blake]

Ken, everyone was free to try other options even when MS was supporting OE.
And personally, I was content to use it for both email and newsgroups. I
use Outlook at work and think it's overkill for what I need at home. So now
I have to waste valuable time taking your advice to sample and learn to use
other programs, when I would have been perfectly happy to stay with OE.

You don't *have to* to do anything. I made my recommendation. Feel
free to disregard it if you want to.



Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

 

[Mortimer]

Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
likes best.

Except that MS have restricted the choice by *not* offering OE or Windows
Mail on Win 7: your only MS choices are WLM or Outlook.

If they want to supply no email program as standard, that's fine - providing
*all* their email programs (OE, WM, WLM) are available.

Although officially Win 7 does not include an email program, all the PCs
I've set up have been supplied with WLM. Maybe this is done by the PC
builder (eg Dell) as an add-on to vanilla Win 7.

 

[John Morrison]

Except that MS have restricted the choice by *not* offering OE or Windows
Mail on Win 7: your only MS choices are WLM or Outlook.

If they want to supply no email program as standard, that's fine - providing
*all* their email programs (OE, WM, WLM) are available.

Although officially Win 7 does not include an email program, all the PCs
I've set up have been supplied with WLM. Maybe this is done by the PC
builder (eg Dell) as an add-on to vanilla Win 7.

Even though I've used many Microsoft operating systems since Win 3.1,
I've never used any of their included programs. I use Forté Agent for
newsgroups, I previously used Gravity but when Gravity folded I switched
to Forté Agent. I've used Eudora for email since Eudora 2.2 and even
though they no longer produce Eudora, I'm still using their final
version, Eudora 7.1.0.9.

 

[Mark Opolo]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows
for separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

your ISP providers software maybe.

 

[Gordon]

Thanks muchley KCB ..
I have fought this Battle & your export / import instructions are the
clearest ...
I have seen

Except he missed out one VITAL step - the transfer of the dbx files from the
machine running OE to the machine running Windows 7...;-)

 

[Mortimer]

Except he missed out one VITAL step - the transfer of the dbx files from
the machine running OE to the machine running Windows 7...;-)

Although the DBX files don't have to be transferred to the C drive of the
Win 7 PC. You can copy them from the XP PC to a pen drive or external hard
disk, and then read them from this on the Win 7 PC. If the PCs are networked
and suitable permissions have been set on the folder that contains the DBX
files, you could even access them via a shared folder.

 

[Gordon]

Although the DBX files don't have to be transferred to the C drive of the
Win 7 PC. You can copy them from the XP PC to a pen drive or external hard
disk, and then read them from this on the Win 7 PC. If the PCs are
networked and suitable permissions have been set on the folder that
contains the DBX files, you could even access them via a shared folder.

But it's MUCH safer to have them on the same HDD....

 

[Mortimer]

But it's MUCH safer to have them on the same HDD....

Are you saying that you've had problems with the import process in Windows
Mail and Windows Live Mail if you access the DBX files from an external
drive rather than from a temporary copy on the C drive? Is it worth the
extra stage of copying them off the external HDD to somewhere on the C drive
in order to import them, and then deleting the DBX files after importing?

 

[Tim Slattery]

Hi all: Just bought a new desktop that came with Win7 installed, and
discovered the OE is no longer a part and that the easy transfer utility
will not transfer the OE files and settings from the old computer to the
Win7's live mail. Would appreciate any recommendations and solutions to
this email dilemma, as I don't want to have to do all of that stuff
manually, and would like to continue using an email program that allows for
separate identities without having to go through the logoff/logbackin
hassels. Thanks,

Pegasus mail will do exactly that and a whole lot more besides.
*Extremely* full-featured and free. It's available at www.pmail.com.
To convert your OE mails to Pegasus, check here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows/msg/9f30c200ececa650

 

[Gordon]

Are you saying that you've had problems with the import process in Windows
Mail and Windows Live Mail if you access the DBX files from an external
drive rather than from a temporary copy on the C drive? Is it worth the
extra stage of copying them off the external HDD to somewhere on the C
drive
in order to import them, and then deleting the DBX files after importing?

Not personally, but as with all email imports - if there's even a slight
hiccough in the read/write access to the external drive that could result in
corrupted data either in the copied message store or the imported data on
the HDD... I prefer to play safe!