WIN 7

J

Jackie

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
Good luck with that. :)
 
S

SC Tom

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
--
Nice hearing from you. Good bye.
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
--
So you can't figure out Windows 7? Windows 7 is much better than Vista and
is very stable. You are probably incompetent and therefore you should
migrate to Ubuntu. Get with our resident Ubuntu idiot, Alias and he will
help you out.

Don't let the screen door hit your ass on the way out. LOL!
 
P

peter

I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.
If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one
wonders
what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???
Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

peter
 
L

Lu Powell

Heywood Jablowme said:
So you can't figure out Windows 7? Windows 7 is much better than Vista
and is very stable. You are probably incompetent and therefore you should
migrate to Ubuntu. Get with our resident Ubuntu idiot, Alias and he will
help you out.

Don't let the screen door hit your ass on the way out. LOL!
The original poster is Alias. Clever, eh?
 
R

ray

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing a
quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to, likely
one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't, just
holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
 
C

Char Jackson

Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.
Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.


I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13
years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any
other questions on learning abilities?


I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,
shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of
time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media
Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been
changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro
no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will
not bore you with them.

Bill - NM
You can always simply ignore the file associations. Instead of opening
the document and having it open its parent application, open the
application and then use it's File/Open command to open the document,
thereby completely bypassing any file associations.
 
S

Slap

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
--
I plonked ya!!
 
N

no_one

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
--
 
L

LSMFT

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.

Bill - MN
My Win 7 is the most stable and reliable Windows OS I ever had.
I even run several Linux distros as well as BSD and Solaris as virtual
machines on this platform. What's your problem?
 
C

c_atiel

You are so f****ng wrong.
Windiws 7 is Vista SP3, not Vista II.
How could anyone be so dum?
 
R

R. C. White

Hi, Bill.
The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of
time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media
Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been
changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro
no longer works.
If you had said that in the beginning, you probably would have had some
helpful responses by now. ;^}

It has been at least a decade since I used Quattro Pro and I don't recall
its file extensions (and I'm too lazy to look it up, even though I'm still a
youngster a couple of months shy of 75). WMP uses files with several
extensions, so probably one of them conflicts with the QP extension. Char
Jackson's suggestion makes sense to me: Start QP, then use its File menu to
Open the spreadsheet.

Have you tried to press Start | Control Panel | Default Programs? Here you
probably can find the QP file extension and change its "Current Default"
from WMP to QP.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64)
 
M

milt

I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.
If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one
wonders
what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???
Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

peter
That's because I think it was simply a trolling post. Nothing more,
nothing less.
 
N

no_one

peter said:
I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.
If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one
wonders
Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.
Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.
what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???
Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!
I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13
years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any
other questions on learning abilities?

I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,
shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of
time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media
Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been
changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro
no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will
not bore you with them.

Bill - NM
--
 
M

Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps)

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for
three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing
a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,
likely one of the Linux distros.
Linux is weaker than Window$ in some areas! :)

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J

Jackie

Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root
kits, trojans and other malware.
I don't really think Linux is worse at running them. I mean, they are
just programs like any other program. Why would they run worse? :)
I know what you mean though, but considering that most computers have
Windows pre-installed, and most people keep Windows, no wonder why such
programs are targeted at it (more users, more profit). So I think it
shows that Windows is quite successful.
 
N

noone

Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root
kits, trojans and other malware.
And running softwares developped for Windows.
 
J

Jackie

Because of Linux' architecture and Linux doesn't do .exe files.
This is a matter of course though. Of course, I meant binaries built for
Linux and not running binaries made for Windows.
This is a myth that is a part of the MS FUD against Linux
I can partially agree with this, actually. After I had already posted
it, I realized that I should have worded myself differently, because I
don't mean it exactly the way I said it. Just because is widely used and
because it's the only one most of us know about, it doesn't really have
to mean anything (other than good marketing strategies compared to
Linux). I did not mean that it is *easier* to exploit it either *because
of that* (but I assume you know already but just wanted to troll). What
I meant was it is *more likely to be targeted* because of it's mass of
users compared to other systems. Windows 7 is indeed more secure than
Windows XP (x86) at least. Drivers must be signed (but I think I have
seen some tool for signing them yourself for testing and such). It is
possible to disable the driver integrity check but needs elevation in
order to do that. In order for programs to load drivers, it also need to
be elevated. System services cannot be installed either without
elevation. But I can confirm that it is easy to add an entry to the
Windows task scheduler and make the process run with full system access
without the UAC popping up, if I don't recall incorrectly.

I do not like to say that one is best and anything else is crap.
 
J

Jackie

I suspect that Windows is targeted because of various reasons. Windows
is easier to exploit and Windows users are usually less tech savvy than
Linux users.
Certain features (not bugs) in Windows do allow an easier way to do
things with other running processes (resulting in easier way to exploit
vulnerabilities within them as well), while this is either disabled,
only partially supported, or not supported at all in Linux. This is
often because these programs are not coded well enough to protect
themselves. However, this requires the calling process to have the same
or higher access level as the target process.

In the case mentioned here, your statement about less tech savvy people
is very true, since they are more likely to click "Yes" without reading
or understanding the question and potential consequences, and simply
allow the program permission to do such a thing. This is more annoying
under Linux since you need to re-type your password every time (which
would be a good thing for these people, actually).

There should have been an option under Windows to use both: The UAC
prompt with simply "Yes" and "No", or prompt for the password again. The
first one for users like you and I, and the other for them (they are
less likely to bother exploring, or they will wonder why they need to do
this).
All they have to do is click on the wrong advertisement in
Facebook and they're hosed. The same wrong ad wouldn't affect Linux.
Now, I do not believe this is a problem with Windows itself but the
browser or plugins the user has installed in the browser. Internet
Explorer, for example, has a support for ActiveX controls and allows
scripts to communicate with them, which I would consider very dangerous.
There was also this issue earlier when people pressed F1 on the "right"
site (you can search for it). Such things should never have been
implemented into IE in the first place, and would never have been
exploitable.
 

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