Will Microsoft Works, Version 4.0 work in Windows XP, or Windows 7 ?

[James]

The subject title says it all. Anyone here know ?

Thanks !!

James

 

[Jaypie]

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Works very well with Windows 7.

 

[Gordon]

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James

MS Life cycle support page
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?c2=1188 doesn't even MENTION
Works 4. The earliest version they show is 4.5 which went out of ALL
support in 2002 - that's TEN YEARS ago.
Yes it MIGHT work in Windows 7 - certainly if it is 16 bit then it won't
- but it is totally obsolete and insecure.
You really really need to either purchase the latest version or, if you
can't afford that, try the free Libre Office http://www.libreoffice.org/
which in any case is far more functional than Works and can also open
the new MS OOXML documents.

 

[James]

Thanks to Gordon and Jaypie for their replies !!

James

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

MS Life cycle support page
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?c2=1188 doesn't even MENTION
Works 4. The earliest version they show is 4.5 which went out of ALL
support in 2002 - that's TEN YEARS ago.
Yes it MIGHT work in Windows 7 - certainly if it is 16 bit then it
won't - but it is totally obsolete and insecure.
You really really need to either purchase the latest version or, if you
can't afford that, try the free Libre Office
http://www.libreoffice.org/ which in any case is far more functional
than Works and can also open the new MS OOXML documents.

In what way insecure?

 

[jbm]

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James


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Can't help with V4.0. But I have V6 here, and there's no problem with
Windows XP. Works perfectly. Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit = not a cat's
chance in Hell! Won't even install.

jim

 

[JD]

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James


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Can't help with V4.0. But I have V6 here, and there's no problem with
Windows XP. Works perfectly. Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit = not a cat's
chance in Hell! Won't even install.

jim

I'm using Works 4.5a and it installed on Win7 Home P 64-b without a
problem. I feel better not ever updating to V6!

 

[John Williamson]

The subject title says it all. Anyone here know ?

Thanks !!

I've not tried installing it yet, but if all you want to do is work with
Works 4 files, then Libre Office can open, edit and save those formats.

They don't make a fuss about it, it comes up as an option on the File -
Open box.

 

[Gordon]

In what way insecure?

Purely for the fact that there's been NO UPDATES for TEN YEARS.....if no
other...

 

[Gordon]

I'm using Works 4.5a

You are aware that version 4.5 has had NO security or any other updates
for TEN YEARS?

 

[JD]

You are aware that version 4.5 has had NO security or any other updates
for TEN YEARS?

Yes, I am.

 

[Gordon]

Yes, I am.

And people wonder why the Windows world is awash with nasty viruses,
bots and malware....

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Purely for the fact that there's been NO UPDATES for TEN YEARS.....if
no other...

In what way does that make it insecure? My understanding is that the
insecurity in Office files is the ability to use macros, and I didn't
think the components of the Works suite could do macros.

(There's I suppose the JPEG buffer overflow way in, which things that
use the Microsoft picture-processing routines were susceptible to; I
can't remember if a Works file can even contain pictures, but if it can,
then it probably _is_ prone.)

Oh, hang on: Yes, I remember now, Works after a certain version dropped
the Works word processor, and started to include Word; I always thought
that was sad, as the Works one was much lighter, more suited to the sort
of person who would have bought Works (and the machine they would have
run it on). So, assuming you're talking about Works _after_ that point,
then yes, it _is_ susceptible. Late 1990s I think; ISTR that the Works
suite died altogether not long after that, I always assumed because MS
saw its team as a cuckoo in the nest, designing and maintaining a light
suite that I assumed held back sales of full Office (the completely free
alternatives not having really got going yet then).

 

[JD]

In what way does that make it insecure? My understanding is that the
insecurity in Office files is the ability to use macros, and I didn't
think the components of the Works suite could do macros.

(There's I suppose the JPEG buffer overflow way in, which things that
use the Microsoft picture-processing routines were susceptible to; I
can't remember if a Works file can even contain pictures, but if it can,
then it probably _is_ prone.)

Oh, hang on: Yes, I remember now, Works after a certain version dropped
the Works word processor, and started to include Word; I always thought
that was sad, as the Works one was much lighter, more suited to the sort
of person who would have bought Works (and the machine they would have
run it on). So, assuming you're talking about Works _after_ that point,
then yes, it _is_ susceptible. Late 1990s I think; ISTR that the Works
suite died altogether not long after that, I always assumed because MS
saw its team as a cuckoo in the nest, designing and maintaining a light
suite that I assumed held back sales of full Office (the completely free
alternatives not having really got going yet then).

I don't even remember where I got my Works Suite. It contained Works
4.5a, Word 97, Money 99 Basic, Encarta Encyclopedia 99, Expedia Streets
98 and Graphics Studio Greetings 99.

Help, About: Microsoft Works version 4.5a for Windows 95, Copyright 1987
- 1998 Microsoft Corporation.

Works 4.5a includes a Word Processor(Not Word), a Spreadsheet program, a
Database program and a Communications program. I use the word processor,
database program and spreadsheet on older files that I've used for over
18 years.

I also have Office 2000 that I use when Works doesn't work. The Works
word processor doesn't print to .pdf very well.

 

[JD]

And people wonder why the Windows world is awash with nasty viruses,
bots and malware....

I don't wonder about that. Never had a virus, bot or malware.

 

[Char Jackson]

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

I also have Office 2000 that I use when Works doesn't work. The Works
word processor doesn't print to .pdf very well.

I use CutePDF for that. There are others. Free...

 

[Char Jackson]

I use CutePDF for that. There are others. Free...

Oops, my careless snipping left in an extra attribution above.
Mr. Gilliver didn't say any of that.

 

[JD]

I use CutePDF for that. There are others. Free...

I use Adobe Acrobat to create .pdf files from Word. In the works word
processor, Acrobat changed the works page formatting.

 

[Char Jackson]

I use Adobe Acrobat to create .pdf files from Word. In the works word
processor, Acrobat changed the works page formatting.

Too many products mentioned there for me to keep up. You have a Word
document, then you use Acrobat to convert it to pdf. Then you open the
pdf in Works and the formatting is messed up?

I'm not familiar with Works, but perhaps you can open the Word doc
instead of the pdf?

Alternatively, if your chosen conversion program isn't working for
you, be advised that CutePDF has never messed up any formatting for
me, so I recommend it if you're having trouble in that area.

 

[JD]

Too many products mentioned there for me to keep up. You have a Word
document, then you use Acrobat to convert it to pdf. Then you open the
pdf in Works and the formatting is messed up?

I'm not familiar with Works, but perhaps you can open the Word doc
instead of the pdf?

Alternatively, if your chosen conversion program isn't working for
you, be advised that CutePDF has never messed up any formatting for
me, so I recommend it if you're having trouble in that area.

Don't worry about it. When I need to produce a .pdf from a word
processor document, I use Word. No problem.