Trouble customizing the start menu

[Bob S]

I can't figure out (and can't find it in the Windows help
file) how to organize the start menu the way I like.

I want to group like programs in dedicated subfolders (e.g.,
word processing programs in a subfolder called "Word
Processing," security programs in a subfolder by that name,
and so on). Windows 7 seems to be so different from WinXP
and earlier versions that I can't find an intuitive way to
do it, and the section in the help file on customizing the
start menu neither describes how to organize by topic nor
states that it can't be done anymore. So I'm lost on this
on.

Would someone please let me know how to organize the start
menu? It's hard to imagine that it isn't possible anymore,
since that would be such a giant step backward.

Also, do I have it correct that Windows Classic Folders view
doesn't exist anymore? I don't see anything relevant in
Folder Options or in the Windows help file.

Thanks.

 

[Trev]

I can't figure out (and can't find it in the Windows help
file) how to organize the start menu the way I like.

I want to group like programs in dedicated subfolders (e.g.,
word processing programs in a subfolder called "Word
Processing," security programs in a subfolder by that name,
and so on). Windows 7 seems to be so different from WinXP
and earlier versions that I can't find an intuitive way to
do it, and the section in the help file on customizing the
start menu neither describes how to organize by topic nor
states that it can't be done anymore. So I'm lost on this
on.

Would someone please let me know how to organize the start
menu? It's hard to imagine that it isn't possible anymore,
since that would be such a giant step backward.

Also, do I have it correct that Windows Classic Folders view
doesn't exist anymore? I don't see anything relevant in
Folder Options or in the Windows help file.

Thanks.

Easy once you have found the start menu .
Typically C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

Then create your folders and drag the shortcuts into them

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

I can't figure out (and can't find it in the Windows help
file) how to organize the start menu the way I like.

I want to group like programs in dedicated subfolders (e.g.,
word processing programs in a subfolder called "Word
Processing," security programs in a subfolder by that name,
and so on). Windows 7 seems to be so different from WinXP
and earlier versions that I can't find an intuitive way to
do it, and the section in the help file on customizing the
start menu neither describes how to organize by topic nor
states that it can't be done anymore. So I'm lost on this
on.

Would someone please let me know how to organize the start
menu? It's hard to imagine that it isn't possible anymore,
since that would be such a giant step backward.

Also, do I have it correct that Windows Classic Folders view
doesn't exist anymore? I don't see anything relevant in
Folder Options or in the Windows help file.

I have given up on the Windows 7 start menu. In XP and Vista I could
use a classic start menu but not W7 :-(

I found this program:-

http://www.vistastartmenu.com

which works very well in W7 and is like, but better, than the old
classic start menu.

It is free unless you want to buy the Pro version

 

[Bob S]

Easy once you have found the start menu .
Typically C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

Then create your folders and drag the shortcuts into them

That was a big help. Thanks.

I've reorganized what I can, but find that one program I
installed, which appears in the start menu, doesn't have a
shortcut in C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu.
Same for a number of items that came with the computer.

The are two Internet Explorer icons (one of them for 64-bit)
which I'd like to move into a subfolder, but they aren't in
C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu either.

How can I move them?

Also, "Games" still appears in the start menu, although in
the Customize Start Menu box I selected "Don't display this
item." How do I get it not to display?

Thanks again.

 

[Bob S]

I found this program:-

http://www.vistastartmenu.com

Thanks very much. I'll check it out.

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

I've reorganized what I can, but find that one program I
installed, which appears in the start menu, doesn't have a
shortcut in C:\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu.

That is NOT the only location for start menu items. It is where
shortcuts for all users are kept.

Start menu items for individual users are stored here:-

C:\Users\User Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

so have a look there too,

 

[Bob S]

[snip]

so have a look there too,

I just did, and now I have it all the way I like it.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Alto]

I can't figure out (and can't find it in the Windows help
file) how to organize the start menu the way I like.
Snip ....................

You should not use a false address like the one you have -
(e-mail address removed)

There really is a domain name xxxxx.com and, while I do not mind a
porn site such as this being bombarded with spam sent to your false
adress, the use of such false addresses should be discouraged.

The best way to use a false address is to use

invalid.com

See here:-

http://www.2kevin.net/munging.html
http://www.fingerlakesbmw.org/main/flmung.php

 

[Ken Swenson]

I can't figure out (and can't find it in the Windows help
file) how to organize the start menu the way I like.

I want to group like programs in dedicated subfolders (e.g.,
word processing programs in a subfolder called "Word
Processing," security programs in a subfolder by that name,
and so on). Windows 7 seems to be so different from WinXP
and earlier versions that I can't find an intuitive way to
do it, and the section in the help file on customizing the
start menu neither describes how to organize by topic nor
states that it can't be done anymore. So I'm lost on this
on.

Would someone please let me know how to organize the start
menu? It's hard to imagine that it isn't possible anymore,
since that would be such a giant step backward.

Also, do I have it correct that Windows Classic Folders view
doesn't exist anymore? I don't see anything relevant in
Folder Options or in the Windows help file.

Thanks.

Here's a freebie for ClassicStartMenu http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

Snip ....................

Here's a freebie for ClassicStartMenu http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

Hey - thanks Ken - I like this one a lot better than the
VistaStartMenu I mentioned a couple of posts ago in this thread!

Cheers ..............

 

[Bob S]

[snip]

You should not use a false address like the one you have -
(e-mail address removed)

[snip]

Thanks for telling me. After all these years I didn't know
that that was an actual adress. I've now changed my address,
as you can see.

 

[Bob S]

Here's a freebie for ClassicStartMenu
http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

Now that's a program I definitely can use.

Thanks very much.

 

[Ken Swenson]

Hey - thanks Ken - I like this one a lot better than the
VistaStartMenu I mentioned a couple of posts ago in this thread!

Cheers ..............

You guys are welcome. I'm an old coot fixed in my ways and I'm tired of
having to relearn the intricacies of every new Windows iteration. I hope
this particular "Start Menu" works FOREVER!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

You should not use a false address like the one you have -
(e-mail address removed)

There really is a domain name xxxxx.com and, while I do not mind a
porn site such as this being bombarded with spam sent to your false
adress, the use of such false addresses should be discouraged.

The best way to use a false address is to use

See here:-

http://www.2kevin.net/munging.html
http://www.fingerlakesbmw.org/main/flmung.php

But my understanding, and the sites you point to, all say that the
top-level domain (like .com or .org) is the one to be replaced by
"invalid", not the second-level domain as in your example.

Thus you need to say <whatever>.invalid (note that I say
someplace.invalid in my headers) instead of invalid.com or invalid.org,
etc.

Bob S please note (but thanks for listening to Alto!)...

 

[Alto]

But my understanding, and the sites you point to, all say that the
top-level domain (like .com or .org) is the one to be replaced by
"invalid", not the second-level domain as in your example.

Ooooppps - sorry - you are right

I was dashing it off too quickly and my mind was a bit out of gear :-(

So, Bob, Sorry I gave you a bit of a bum steer. I use:-

(e-mail address removed)

 

[Stubbo of Oz]

But my understanding, and the sites you point to, all say that the
top-level domain (like .com or .org) is the one to be replaced by
"invalid", not the second-level domain as in your example.

Thus you need to say <whatever>.invalid (note that I say
someplace.invalid in my headers) instead of invalid.com or invalid.org,
etc.

Bob S please note (but thanks for listening to Alto!)...

Inrterestingly, there are actually some legitimate domain names with
"invalid" at the second level of the domain name e.g.:-

http://www.invalid.com
http://www.invalid.net

The first one seems to be demonstrating what happens when people use
an email address with invalid.com instead of whatever.invalid

In the later case the "invalid" has the meaning "sick person" instead
of "not valid".

Could be lots more if you add country code suffixes!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:39:04 -0800, Gene E. Bloch

Ooooppps - sorry - you are right

I was dashing it off too quickly and my mind was a bit out of gear :-(

So, Bob, Sorry I gave you a bit of a bum steer. I use:-

(e-mail address removed)

It's the old momentary loss of focus syndrome

I think the huge volume of posts on these NGs contributes to that (for
me, anyway).

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:39:04 -0800, Gene E. Bloch

Inrterestingly, there are actually some legitimate domain names with
"invalid" at the second level of the domain name e.g.:-

The first one seems to be demonstrating what happens when people use
an email address with invalid.com instead of whatever.invalid

In the later case the "invalid" has the meaning "sick person" instead
of "not valid".

Could be lots more if you add country code suffixes!

Thanks. I was wondering if there were any such cases (but I admit that
I forgot about INvalid vs inVALid).

And as you can see, Alto just had a momentary brainquake.

 

[Alto]

Snip ....................
And as you can see, Alto just had a momentary brainquake.

Being in my dotage, it's not the first time!! :-(

Cheers ................

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:54:32 -0800, Gene E. Bloch

Being in my dotage, it's not the first time!! :-(

Cheers ................

I hope we both can look forward to many happy Cranial Richter events


Happy New Year to you and to all the denizens of alt.windows7.general!