Sound Recorder

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wrenden

When I record a sound from a site and try to play it back the sound is
garbled. Is this done on purpose or are my settings wrong? Recording
from the mike input jack works OK.

Thanks,
wrenden
 
E

Ed Cryer

wrenden said:
When I record a sound from a site and try to play it back the sound is
garbled. Is this done on purpose or are my settings wrong? Recording
from the mike input jack works OK.

Thanks,
wrenden
If you're using some program to record internally (which would be best
in this situation) then you must have Stereo Mix as chosen recording
device; and that has its own settings for quality.

Control Centre, Sound, Recording tab.
Make sure Stereo Mix is default device; adjust properties.

Ed
 
W

Wolf K

When I record a sound from a site and try to play it back the sound is
garbled. Is this done on purpose or are my settings wrong? Recording
from the mike input jack works OK.

Thanks,
wrenden
First, what do you mean by "recording a sound"? You should be able to
download any freely available MP (for example) with no problems. AFAIK,
the sound recorder is not designed to capture sounds directly from a
website, so I'm not surprised that playback is garbled.

HTH
 
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Paul

Ed said:
If you're using some program to record internally (which would be best
in this situation) then you must have Stereo Mix as chosen recording
device; and that has its own settings for quality.

Control Centre, Sound, Recording tab.
Make sure Stereo Mix is default device; adjust properties.

Ed
On platforms implementing some form of "protected audio path",
the OS may be designed to prevent Stereo Mix from working.
Hardware-wise, unless your sound hardware is really really old,
it's to be expected there is a Stereo Mix actually implemented
in the hardware mixer in the audio chip. It's when the monkeys
fool around with enforcing DRM, where we lose the Stereo Mix
or "what you hear" option. They can zap stuff the driver
provides if they want.

And that's on a purely analog path.

A digital path, all sorts of possibilities exist, to protect
the content so you can't copy it before it gets to the
media device (audio over HDMI with HDCP perhaps).

For example, a person might intercept AC3 digital samples,
instead of PCM, and that would be horrible if it came out of your
speakers.

Your best odds of copying a sound you hear on the
speakers, are with an older OS. Even Linux, in some
testing I was doing recently, seems to have "lost"
the Stereo Mix. At least, I couldn't find it. I had
to resort to running a cable from Line_Out to Line_in (puke!).
If you need to do that on a permanent basis, you can always
make yourself a "Y" cable, so you can continue to listen
to the computer speakers, as well as record analog sound.

Hacking digital is a little more work, but I believe
some way was found around HDCP.

As long as analog paths are available, they're the easiest way to go.

Paul
 
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Char Jackson

On platforms implementing some form of "protected audio path",
the OS may be designed to prevent Stereo Mix from working.
Hardware-wise, unless your sound hardware is really really old,
it's to be expected there is a Stereo Mix actually implemented
in the hardware mixer in the audio chip. It's when the monkeys
fool around with enforcing DRM, where we lose the Stereo Mix
or "what you hear" option. They can zap stuff the driver
provides if they want.

And that's on a purely analog path.

A digital path, all sorts of possibilities exist, to protect
the content so you can't copy it before it gets to the
media device (audio over HDMI with HDCP perhaps).

For example, a person might intercept AC3 digital samples,
instead of PCM, and that would be horrible if it came out of your
speakers.
Humans are analog devices living in an increasingly digital world.
 
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Ed Cryer

Paul said:
On platforms implementing some form of "protected audio path",
the OS may be designed to prevent Stereo Mix from working.
Hardware-wise, unless your sound hardware is really really old,
it's to be expected there is a Stereo Mix actually implemented
in the hardware mixer in the audio chip. It's when the monkeys
fool around with enforcing DRM, where we lose the Stereo Mix
or "what you hear" option. They can zap stuff the driver
provides if they want.

And that's on a purely analog path.

A digital path, all sorts of possibilities exist, to protect
the content so you can't copy it before it gets to the
media device (audio over HDMI with HDCP perhaps).

For example, a person might intercept AC3 digital samples,
instead of PCM, and that would be horrible if it came out of your
speakers.

Your best odds of copying a sound you hear on the
speakers, are with an older OS. Even Linux, in some
testing I was doing recently, seems to have "lost"
the Stereo Mix. At least, I couldn't find it. I had
to resort to running a cable from Line_Out to Line_in (puke!).
If you need to do that on a permanent basis, you can always
make yourself a "Y" cable, so you can continue to listen
to the computer speakers, as well as record analog sound.

Hacking digital is a little more work, but I believe
some way was found around HDCP.

As long as analog paths are available, they're the easiest way to go.

Paul

Cripes! I'm a bit out of touch here. I just tried my old methods; and
the MS-supplied (Thank you for nothing, MS!) software for recording is
all greyed out.

I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a video-editor to MP3.

Ed
 
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Paul in Houston TX

wrenden said:
When I record a sound from a site and try to play it back the sound is
garbled. Is this done on purpose or are my settings wrong? Recording
from the mike input jack works OK.

Thanks,
wrenden
Not enough info.
What's the format?
What's the site?
Flash, html, js, etc???
What's your input device?
What's bit rate & hz?
What's the recording device?
What do you mean "settings" ?
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a video-editor to
MP3.

Ed
The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)
 
E

Ed Cryer

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)
This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear" through
a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.

Ed
 
W

wrenden

Not enough info.
What's the format?
What's the site?
Flash, html, js, etc???
What's your input device?
What's bit rate & hz?
What's the recording device?
What do you mean "settings" ?

Wow, I didn't expect all that response. Thanks all for the tips and
info.

wrenden
 
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Ed Cryer

Ian said:
Ed Cryer said:
J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
[]
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a video-editor to
MP3.

Ed

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)
This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear"
through a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.
"Audacity" is another of the freeware stalwarts for recording anything
passing through the audio card.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
I think you'll find even Audacity will have trouble with a greyed-out
Stereo Mix.

Ed
 
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Don

Ian said:
Ed Cryer said:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
[]
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a video-editor to
MP3.

Ed

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)

This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear"
through a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.
"Audacity" is another of the freeware stalwarts for recording anything
passing through the audio card.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
I think you'll find even Audacity will have trouble with a greyed-out
Stereo Mix.

Ed
Ed,

I am running Audacity ver. 1.2.6 on:

Desktop PC: PowerSpec B820
Processor: 3.3 GHz Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard: Intel DP67DE
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM
OS: Windows 7 Pro (x64) SP 1 (build 7601)
Audio SW: Realtek HD Audio Manager Ver. 1.0,0,590
Audio: Intel HD Audio Chipset, Audio Channels 7.1
Speakers: Altec-Lansing Surround Sound System

I just recorded various musical selections off YouTube, receiving both R
& L channels without any garble or other problems on playback. I
recorded a few selections that I have on CD and found them to be
comparable to the online recordings.

Don
 
E

Ed Cryer

Don said:
Ian said:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
[]
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a
video-editor to
MP3.

Ed

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save
you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which
also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference
is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)

This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear"
through a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.

"Audacity" is another of the freeware stalwarts for recording anything
passing through the audio card.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
I think you'll find even Audacity will have trouble with a greyed-out
Stereo Mix.

Ed
Ed,

I am running Audacity ver. 1.2.6 on:

Desktop PC: PowerSpec B820
Processor: 3.3 GHz Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard: Intel DP67DE
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM
OS: Windows 7 Pro (x64) SP 1 (build 7601)
Audio SW: Realtek HD Audio Manager Ver. 1.0,0,590
Audio: Intel HD Audio Chipset, Audio Channels 7.1
Speakers: Altec-Lansing Surround Sound System

I just recorded various musical selections off YouTube, receiving both R
& L channels without any garble or other problems on playback. I
recorded a few selections that I have on CD and found them to be
comparable to the online recordings.

Don
You forgot the important item. What's your recording device?

Ed
 
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Don

Don said:
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
[]
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but
through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a
video-editor to
MP3.

Ed

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save
you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which
also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has
free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference
is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)

This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear"
through a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.

"Audacity" is another of the freeware stalwarts for recording anything
passing through the audio card.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I think you'll find even Audacity will have trouble with a greyed-out
Stereo Mix.

Ed
Ed,

I am running Audacity ver. 1.2.6 on:

Desktop PC: PowerSpec B820
Processor: 3.3 GHz Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard: Intel DP67DE
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM
OS: Windows 7 Pro (x64) SP 1 (build 7601)
Audio SW: Realtek HD Audio Manager Ver. 1.0,0,590
Audio: Intel HD Audio Chipset, Audio Channels 7.1
Speakers: Altec-Lansing Surround Sound System

I just recorded various musical selections off YouTube, receiving both R
& L channels without any garble or other problems on playback. I
recorded a few selections that I have on CD and found them to be
comparable to the online recordings.

Don
You forgot the important item. What's your recording device?

Ed
Ed,

I do not have a separate sound card.

My MB is an Intel DP67DE AAG10217-303 with:10-channel (7.1+2) Intel®
High Definition Audio (Intel® HD Audio) using a Realtek ALC892* audio
codec including: Front panel audio header with support for Intel HD
Audio and AC '97 Audio Five analog audio jacks on the back panel
Onboard S/PDIF out header and back panel optical S/PDIF out connector

Sound was recorded with my Audacity program not Windows Sound Recorder.

There had been a suggestion that Audacity may not be able to make the
recording either, in response to the OP's garbled recording. I was just
stating that Audacity was working for me.

If I am not answering your question, please help me out a bit.

Don
 
E

Ed Cryer

Don said:
Don said:
On 2/3/2013 3:23 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Ed Cryer
[]
I used to get most of it from Youtube. I can still get it but
through
video-downloading; and then stripping the audio with a
video-editor to
MP3.

Ed

The "Easy YouTube Video Downloader" extension for Firefox will save
you
a step - one of the formats it downloads in is audio only.
http://www.bestvideodownloader.com/ seems to be the website, which
also
implies it works with some other browsers - I don't know. (It has
free
and paid versions: I think for audio-from-YouTube, the difference
is in
quality available. The quality the free one offers is good enough
for
me.)

(I am sure there are other alternatives.)

This piece of freeware claims to restore "record what you hear"
through a virtual audio card.
http://stereomixplus.com/

It worked here.

"Audacity" is another of the freeware stalwarts for recording anything
passing through the audio card.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I think you'll find even Audacity will have trouble with a greyed-out
Stereo Mix.

Ed

Ed,

I am running Audacity ver. 1.2.6 on:

Desktop PC: PowerSpec B820
Processor: 3.3 GHz Intel Core i5-2500K
Motherboard: Intel DP67DE
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM
OS: Windows 7 Pro (x64) SP 1 (build 7601)
Audio SW: Realtek HD Audio Manager Ver. 1.0,0,590
Audio: Intel HD Audio Chipset, Audio Channels 7.1
Speakers: Altec-Lansing Surround Sound System

I just recorded various musical selections off YouTube, receiving both R
& L channels without any garble or other problems on playback. I
recorded a few selections that I have on CD and found them to be
comparable to the online recordings.

Don
You forgot the important item. What's your recording device?

Ed
Ed,

I do not have a separate sound card.

My MB is an Intel DP67DE AAG10217-303 with:10-channel (7.1+2) Intel®
High Definition Audio (Intel® HD Audio) using a Realtek ALC892* audio
codec including: Front panel audio header with support for Intel HD
Audio and AC '97 Audio Five analog audio jacks on the back panel
Onboard S/PDIF out header and back panel optical S/PDIF out connector

Sound was recorded with my Audacity program not Windows Sound Recorder.

There had been a suggestion that Audacity may not be able to make the
recording either, in response to the OP's garbled recording. I was just
stating that Audacity was working for me.

If I am not answering your question, please help me out a bit.

Don
Control Panel
Hardware & Sound
Sound
Manage Audio Devices
Recording Tab

What's your default?

Ed
 
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Don

Control Panel
Hardware & Sound
Sound
Manage Audio Devices
Recording Tab

What's your default?

Ed
Control Panel
Sound
Recording Tab
Line In/Realtek High Definition Audio = Default Device
Stereo Mix/Realtek High Definition Audio = Ready

Don
 
E

Ed Cryer

Don said:
Control Panel
Sound
Recording Tab
Line In/Realtek High Definition Audio = Default Device
Stereo Mix/Realtek High Definition Audio = Ready

Don
So then, you record onto Audacity using the Line In?

Ed
 
D

Don

So then, you record onto Audacity using the Line In?

Ed
Ed,

I had been recording from audio cassette tapes using Line In and it was
still on that default setting when I recorded audio from YouTube with
Audacity and the sound seemed to be fine! I haven't, as yet, tried
setting the default to Stereo Mix, then doing a recording off YouTube
for comparison.

Don
 

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