Sound facilities

[no.top.post]

This HP-mini-netbook has quiet amazing hardware.
Did I read somewhere that the test-to-speech facility
can do other languages besides English?

What formats of music does it play and where should the files
be stored, or does the player browse for them and remember
where they were for future? I prefer to put my new files in my
<user directory-tree>.

==TIA.

 

[Nil]

This HP-mini-netbook has quiet amazing hardware.
Did I read somewhere that the test-to-speech facility
can do other languages besides English?

What formats of music does it play

Does WHAT play? Please be more specific.

and where should the files be stored, or does the player browse
for them and remember where they were for future? I prefer to put
my new files in my <user directory-tree>.

What player? Please be more specific.

 

[no.top.post]

Does WHAT play? Please be more specific.

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

What player? Please be more specific.
.

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

 

[John Williamson]

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

The computer will play whatever formats that you want to install codecs
for. Windows Media Player as standard will play, among others, mp3 and
wav files.

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

Store them where you like, most people using Windows 7 store them in the
Music Library.

As written, though, your question is virtually meaningless, as a
computer running Windows 7 can play any music file, stored wherever you
wish, whether that is on your hard drive, an external hard drive, a
network drive, or a USB stick, using any one of hundreds of different
players.

I use Winamp, and any files it can't play using the standard codecs, I
can get plugins or codec packs to play. Real Player will do the same, as
will Windows Media Player, or Windows Media Player Classic. They all
have their own media library facility, which will browse whichever parts
of the system you tell it to and remember where and what you have.

 

[Nil]

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

"This HP-mini-netbook" will play any format for which you have the
proper codecs installed, and a player application that can use them.

As written "This HP-mini-netbook" on the "alt.windows7" Newsgroup

Since you won't answer a direct question, I guess you don't really want
to know the answer.

 

[no.top.post]

The computer will play whatever formats that you want to install codecs
for. Windows Media Player as standard will play, among others, mp3 and
wav files.

I don't use Microsoft products, and assumed that a [starters] Win7 'loaded'
device would have a STANDARD set of apps.

Store them where you like, most people using Windows 7 store them in the
Music Library.

As written, though, your question is virtually meaningless, as a
computer running Windows 7 can play any music file, stored wherever you
wish, whether that is on your hard drive, an external hard drive, a
network drive, or a USB stick, using any one of hundreds of different
players.

I use Winamp, and any files it can't play using the standard codecs, I
can get plugins or codec packs to play. Real Player will do the same, as
will Windows Media Player, or Windows Media Player Classic. They all
have their own media library facility, which will browse whichever parts
of the system you tell it to and remember where and what you have.
--

I don't want to 'install' anything.
Like if you hire a car for the day, you just want to know how
to unlock the boot.

WinXYZs have substantial 'restrictions' eg.
the apps expect to find the files at certain locations,
the apps insist on the data files having certain IDs/extensions.

It's like a railway system: the vehicles can only follow the fixed
tracks and stop at fixed stations.

 

[Nil]

I don't use Microsoft products, and assumed that a [starters] Win7
'loaded' device would have a STANDARD set of apps.

And what would "standard" be? "Standard" compared with what.

As with any other operating system, it comes with a limited set of
apps. If they don't suit you, you find or make others. If you're
unwilling to do that, stop whining.

WinXYZs have substantial 'restrictions' eg.
the apps expect to find the files at certain locations,
Poppycock.

the apps insist on the data files having certain IDs/extensions.

Yeah. So what?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

The computer will play whatever formats that you want to install codecs
for. Windows Media Player as standard will play, among others, mp3 and
wav files.

I don't use Microsoft products, and assumed that a [starters] Win7 'loaded'
device would have a STANDARD set of apps.

Store them where you like, most people using Windows 7 store them in the
Music Library.

As written, though, your question is virtually meaningless, as a
computer running Windows 7 can play any music file, stored wherever you
wish, whether that is on your hard drive, an external hard drive, a
network drive, or a USB stick, using any one of hundreds of different
players.

I use Winamp, and any files it can't play using the standard codecs, I
can get plugins or codec packs to play. Real Player will do the same, as
will Windows Media Player, or Windows Media Player Classic. They all
have their own media library facility, which will browse whichever parts
of the system you tell it to and remember where and what you have.
--

I don't want to 'install' anything.
Like if you hire a car for the day, you just want to know how
to unlock the boot.

WinXYZs have substantial 'restrictions' eg.
the apps expect to find the files at certain locations,
the apps insist on the data files having certain IDs/extensions.

It's like a railway system: the vehicles can only follow the fixed
tracks and stop at fixed stations.

Well, OK, if you don't wish to solve the problem, you'll just have to
live with it. That's fine with me.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

I don't use Microsoft products, and assumed that a [starters] Win7 'loaded'
device would have a STANDARD set of apps.

The operating system comes with a limited set of programs (apps if you
must) - a plain text editor, a simple word processor (I assume W7 had
WordPad or equivalent), and a media player. (Though I don't use any of
them, the media player supplied as "standard" has improved in various
ways, certainly including the number of filetypes it can play, with each
version of Windows.)
[]

I don't want to 'install' anything.
Like if you hire a car for the day, you just want to know how
to unlock the boot.

[I could ask why that shouldn't be standard .] I see your point: you
want to just turn the key and go, i. e. edit/play/whatever your files
using the default software. Well, if you accept the defaults the basic
softwares use, for things like where the files are stored, then you can.

WinXYZs have substantial 'restrictions' eg.
the apps expect to find the files at certain locations,

Most Windows prog.s (as others have said, its the prog.s, not Windows
itself, though it does guide) do indeed have _default_ locations;
however, I can't remember the last time I saw a Windows prog. that
didn't have the ability to look elsewhere for input files, i. e. load
files from anywhere. And save them in other than the default locations
too; Windows 7 has some restrictions on where you can write, but that's
to protect less knowledgeable users from themselves.

the apps insist on the data files having certain IDs/extensions.

That's been so since before Windows 95. However, any operating system
has some way of recording what sort of file a file is - otherwise it
wouldn't know what to open it with. Windows uses the file extension -
but, from 95 to XP and I presume in 7, you can turn off the display of
the extensions, so that you don't have to see them. (I sense you're
coming to Windows from something else: what, and what mechanism does
that use to record what type a file is?) In fact, certainly up to XP,
the default setting _was_ to hide the extensions; most users unhide
them, but it's not compulsory to do so.

It's like a railway system: the vehicles can only follow the fixed
tracks and stop at fixed stations.

To mix metaphors, it's horses for courses: if you tried to drive a
railway engine down a road, let alone across a field, the wheels would
dig in. But I'm not sure what similar restriction you're referring to in
the world of Windows.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Radio 4 is one of the reasons being British is good. It's not a subset of
Britain - it's almost as if Britain is a subset of Radio 4. - Stephen Fry, in
Radio Times, 7-13 June, 2003.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

That's been so since before Windows 95. However, any operating system has
some way of recording what sort of file a file is - otherwise it wouldn't
know what to open it with. Windows uses the file extension - but, from 95 to
XP and I presume in 7, you can turn off the display of the extensions, so
that you don't have to see them. (I sense you're coming to Windows from
something else: what, and what mechanism does that use to record what type a
file is?) In fact, certainly up to XP, the default setting _was_ to hide the
extensions; most users unhide them, but it's not compulsory to do so.

The extension scheme goes back to DOS, and IIRC, even CP/M.

Hiding and unhiding file-name extensions still exists in Windows 7, and
the default is still to hide them, which I consider to be the wrong
choice. In fact, I am not convinced that the extensions should be
hidable at all

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

The extension scheme goes back to DOS, and IIRC, even CP/M.

Yes, but wasn't compulsory: For example, I remember WordPerfect 5.1 (and
I think even some later versions) defaulted to no extension.

Hiding and unhiding file-name extensions still exists in Windows 7, and
the default is still to hide them, which I consider to be the wrong
choice. In fact, I am not convinced that the extensions should be
hidable at all

I certainly think it's unwise - if only because some malware uses
double-extensions, such as .txt.exe, so that if extension-hiding is
turned on, it will look like .txt and thus innocent.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Yes, but wasn't compulsory: For example, I remember WordPerfect 5.1 (and I
think even some later versions) defaulted to no extension.

You can still save and open files without extensions in Windows 7.

I just created a file in Notetab++ and saved it as Testaroony (no
extension) on my Desktop. Then I both opened it in NoteTab Light and
listed it in a cmd window dir command.

It's not the default, of course. And MS Word was not so compliant...

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

You can still save and open files without extensions in Windows 7.

I just created a file in Notetab++ and saved it as Testaroony (no
extension) on my Desktop. Then I both opened it in NoteTab Light and
listed it in a cmd window dir command.

It's not the default, of course. And MS Word was not so compliant...

Yes, you can make most Windows software save with any extension, by
putting quotes round the filename you're trying to create. I'm not sure
if that includes no extension (you might at least need a trailing dot),
nor if it applies to Word. I have I think used this method to create
batch (.bat) files in Notepad and similar.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Yes, you can make most Windows software save with any extension, by putting
quotes round the filename you're trying to create. I'm not sure if that
includes no extension (you might at least need a trailing dot), nor if it
applies to Word. I have I think used this method to create batch (.bat) files
in Notepad and similar.

I did not use quotes or a dot.

And as I already said, "MS Word was not so compliant". To disambiguate:
by that I meant I couldn't save such a file from Word.

But you made me think of something to test: I was able to open the file
in Word (but I still wasn't given a way to save it without an
extension).

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

I did not use quotes or a dot.

And as I already said, "MS Word was not so compliant". To disambiguate:
by that I meant I couldn't save such a file from Word.

But you made me think of something to test: I was able to open the file
in Word (but I still wasn't given a way to save it without an
extension).

Ah, did you try changing the filetype to "any file" as well as using the
quotes?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

He spoke in sentences that made up paragraphs, with immaculate grammar and
punctuation. - Barry Cryer on Clement Freud 1924-2009, in Radio Times, 25 April
- 1 May 2009.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Ah, did you try changing the filetype to "any file" as well as using the
quotes?

The save dialog in my version of Word (2003) lacks "Any file", which is
*precisely* why I said "I still wasn't given a way to save it without
an extension"...

However, I do still have the Any key

 

[Char Jackson]

The save dialog in my version of Word (2003) lacks "Any file", which is
*precisely* why I said "I still wasn't given a way to save it without
an extension"...

My assessment of the Word 2003 Save As dialog is that the Save As Type
selector chooses the file format and appends the default extension for
that format. On top of that, you can override the default extension
and give the saved file any extension, but not 'no extension'.

Long story short, I agree with you.

However, I do still have the Any key

I don't have that and I miss it.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 11:26:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch

My assessment of the Word 2003 Save As dialog is that the Save As Type
selector chooses the file format and appends the default extension for
that format. On top of that, you can override the default extension
and give the saved file any extension, but not 'no extension'.

Long story short, I agree with you.

Thanks. After John's reply, I needed some reassurance

(Just kidding, John...)

I don't have that and I miss it.

I wrote an app for that. Would you like me to e-mail it to you?

 

[Char Jackson]

I wrote an app for that. Would you like me to e-mail it to you?

Thanks, but no. I like having a few things to complain about.