Slow Booting

[Ricky Jimenez]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

 

[Paul]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

You could check this.

"Boot Duration" (in Event Viewer)
http://windows7themes.net/speed-up-windows-7-boot-time-2.html

Paul

 

[AlDrake]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

IMHO it's time for a reinstall. The time you can spend trying to get
it back to where is was isn't worth the trouble. From my experience I
keep a spare SSD ready to slide in and start over. Feels good to have it
so fast again.

Al.

 

[Krypto]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

-First go through all your programs and uninstall every program that
you don't use or need. Toolbars can cause problems so get rid of all
toolbars too.

-CCleaner will clear your Temp folder etc. and get rid of junk.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

Download and install Malwarebytes & Superantispyware from
http://ninite.com/ and scan the computer. First Malwarebytes then
Superantispyware or the other way around just not both at once.

I assume that you have already used msconfiq to disable startup
programs that are not needed.
If you are familiar with the registry delete all references to old
programs that you have uninstalled. You might also go through your
user folder>appdata and delete all the folders that are left by old
uninstalled programs.

If your computer is still slow then you can try to isolate the problem
with a clean boot. Here is a helpful link:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ation-conflicts-performing-clean-startup.html

This usually works for me but your milage may vary.

Krypto

 

[philo]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

First off, if your machine is otherwise running OK, a few minutes to
start is rather unimportant.

If you want though you can run msconfig and take unessential
applications out of start up...

There is a good chance you need little more there than your virus checker.

 

[Mellowed]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

Wow, that is a long time. Mine takes about 30-40 seconds. I'm sure
that there will be some very good suggestions coming in. Here's what I
would do in my simplistic capability. There are programs that dissect
startup times but I don't know them.

Are you setup to do some virus checks or other systems checks on start
up? That takes time. Lots of it.

Download and install Advanced Uninstaller Pro. It's free.
http://www.advanceduninstaller.com/

Go to the Registry section and backup your registry.

Go to C: properties (right click on c from Windows Explorer and do a
disk clean.

Go to the Startup section (Advanced Uninstaller) and review all of the
startup items. Disable everything not needed. Many programs put
something in Startup that are not necessary. They all take time.

Go to registry section and clean the registry. It's a cautious clean
but if there is a problem you have a fresh backup. Many will disagree
with this step, but I've had no problem.

Install Crap Cleaner.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/faq/general/is-it-ccleaner,-cccleaner-or-c-cleaner
Do an 'analyze' first to do a sanity check.

Basically just do a cleanup of the computer. The key thing is to backup
the registry before you do anything. If you clean too much you can
always get back to where you were.

Whenever you install any program now days the installer sneaks in Tool
bars. Get rid of all of them! Pay attention to the setup splash
screens. You might have an option to not install. Always select
'Custom' Install.

I'm sure more sophisticated suggestions will be forth coming from others.

Good Luck.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

IMHO it's time for a reinstall. The time you can spend trying to get
it back to where is was isn't worth the trouble. From my experience I
keep a spare SSD ready to slide in and start over. Feels good to have it
so fast again.

Rather lazy, as this will happen again, so it's better to understand why
it's happened in the first place.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Yousuf Khan]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

As Paul suggested, going through a boot optimization process helps, but
only just a bit. Often times the problem is caused by something that's
gone wonky during either installation or uninstallation, and when it
happened you never knew about it.

You should check your Event Viewer at around the time that the machine
rebooted, and try to fix all errors and warnings. Now I don't know if
this is one of the errors that you're getting, but I found that in my
own case this was one of the biggest causes of boot-time slowdowns:

Custom dynamic link libraries are being loaded for every application -
Microsoft Community
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...aded-for/80497a24-1b98-4705-93cc-32d67b5947d1

AppInit_DLLs in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (Windows)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744762(v=vs.85).aspx

The AppInit_DLL's setting in the registry causes separate instances of
DLL's to be loaded into memory for each application, rather than sharing
these DLL's in a common pool of memory. It slows down the boot process
immensely. Check to see if you see a warning about "Custom Dynamic Link
Libraries being loaded for every application" in the Event Viewer. This
by itself will half the boot time.

Yousuf Khan

 

[AlDrake]

Rather lazy, as this will happen again, so it's better to understand why
it's happened in the first place.

Yousuf Khan

That depends on how much time you have. Many times if you let your
system get to a point where it have been getting slower over time it can
be quicker to reinstall. If it just happened chances are you can find
the one cause of it and remove it.

I'm not retired and work 60 hrs a week. I can't afford to play.

 

[Roger Mills]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

Try installing Soluto. That will analyse everything that is loaded at
boot time and help you to remove stuff you don't need.

https://www.soluto.com/home
--
Cheers,
Roger
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[Stan Brown]

-CCleaner will clear your Temp folder etc. and get rid of junk.
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

So will Cleanmgr, which (a) comes with Windows and (b) won't frack up
your System Registry.

Start » Run » Cleanmgr

 

[Johnny]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

Fix Windows system performance problems on slow Windows computers
http://support.microsoft.com/mats/slow_windows_performance/

 

[Andrew Rossmann]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

Have you done something as simple as a defrag recently?

If you monitor disk activity, is it nearly continuous, or are there long
periods (30-60 sec) of nothing happening? That could be a sign of
something timing out.

 

[David]

"Ricky Jimenez" wrote in message

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.



Try CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

http://www.piriform.com/promo/cclea...96f21d085c2e&gclid=CK3knp2k2bYCFcdU4Aod1j8ASw

The first time I used it, it took almost half hour to analyze and clean up.
Programs loaded almost a second faster than before. I use it at least once a
month.

 

[Jan Alter]

"Ricky Jimenez" wrote in message

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.



Try CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

http://www.piriform.com/promo/cclea...96f21d085c2e&gclid=CK3knp2k2bYCFcdU4Aod1j8ASw

The first time I used it, it took almost half hour to analyze and clean
up. Programs loaded almost a second faster than before. I use it at least
once a month.

I was running into 5 min boot times with my XP system about 6 weeks ago. I
went through the uusal routines of checking event viewer, turning off start
up programs in msconfig , defragging, getting rid of tmp files and nothing
helped. Finally, one morning the computer wouldn't boot, all I got was the
death throw sound of the hard drive clicking. Putting in a new hard drive
and restoring from an Acronis image started givng me 45 second boots again.
SMART had been enabled in the bios but the problem didn't show that way. It
might be worth running the hdd's diagnostic utility if nothing else helps.

 

[Ken Blake]

Rather lazy, as this will happen again, so it's better to understand why
it's happened in the first place.

Ditto! A very strong ditto!

 

[Ken Blake]

Adobe ReaderOn Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:55:40 -0400, Stan Brown

So will Cleanmgr, which (a) comes with Windows and (b) won't frack up
your System Registry.

Neither will CCleaner, unless you choose to use that function of it.

CCleaner does many more things than Cleanmgr does. I personally think
that it's an excellent program as long as you don't use its registry
cleaning functionality.

 

[Ken Blake]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software.

Despite what many people tell you, you should be concerned, not with
how *many* startup programs you run, but *which*. Some of them can
hurt performance severely, but others have no effect on performance.

So what do you have starting automatically? And what anti-virus
program do you run?

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.

 

[Scott]

My 64 bit Win7 Professional machine has gotten slower and slower in
the almost 3 years I have had it. Right now it takes almost 5 minutes
from the time the Starting Windows screen to the Welcome screen. I am
sure it is not the number of start up programs or the anti-virus
software. I accept all updates and it could be that an imperfect
installation has corrupted the operating system. Are there any
diagnostic programs that can help? TIA.

Get a solid state drive.

 

[Ricky Jimenez]

You could check this.

"Boot Duration" (in Event Viewer)
http://windows7themes.net/speed-up-windows-7-boot-time-2.html

Paul

Thanks Paul. Can you glean from what I pasted below what may be
wrong? Thanks.

Log Name: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
Date: 4/20/2013 10:06:39 AM
Event ID: 100
Task Category: Boot Performance Monitoring
Level: Critical
Keywords: Event Log
User: LOCAL SERVICE
Computer: **********
Description:
Windows has started up:
Boot Duration : 381581ms
IsDegradation : false
Incident Time (UTC) : ?2013?-?04?-?20T13:59:24.671600300Z
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance"
Guid="{*******************************************" />
<EventID>100</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>4002</Task>
<Opcode>34</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000010000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-04-20T14:06:39.319962800Z" />
<EventRecordID>3750</EventRecordID>
<Correlation ActivityID="{02F10C70-F800-0006-67C0-E143CF3DCE01}"
/>
<Execution ProcessID="1484" ThreadID="5008" />

<Channel>Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational</Channel>
<Computer>***********</Computer>
<Security UserID="**********" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BootTsVersion">2</Data>
<Data Name="BootStartTime">2013-04-20T13:59:24.671600300Z</Data>
<Data Name="BootEndTime">2013-04-20T14:06:34.983155200Z</Data>
<Data Name="SystemBootInstance">981</Data>
<Data Name="UserBootInstance">937</Data>
<Data Name="BootTime">381581</Data>
<Data Name="MainPathBootTime">301196</Data>
<Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">23</Data>
<Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">220709</Data>
<Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">2046</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">17933</Data>
<Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">5210</Data>
<Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">6585</Data>
<Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">205</Data>
<Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">35334</Data>
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">1</Data>
<Data Name="BootPostBootTime">80385</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits">17408</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits">1049600</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits">8</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsStepDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsGradualDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootImprovementDelta">122555</Data>
<Data Name="BootDegradationDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">true</Data>
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">2465</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">23</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">2746</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">5132</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS">7669</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">220009</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">227888</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">6459</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">560</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">10913</Data>
<Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">245822</Data>
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">13248</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">48730</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>