'Show Hidden Icons' oddity

[Percival P. Cassidy]

I had the 32-bit version of Win7Pro installed on one machine but then
added more memory and installed the 64-bit version.

The one oddity is that on the 64-bit installation, when I click the
'Show Hidden Icons' double-arrow button, the hidden icons do show in the
pop-up box, but when I move the pointing device to click on one of those
the box disappears again. The only way to select one of those items in
the pop-up box is to click the 'Show' button again and keep the button
pressed as I move the pointer up into the box. It didn't work this way
on the 32-bit version: I could click on the 'Show' button then move the
pointer up into the pop-up box.

Any ideas?

Perce

 

[VanguardLH]

I had the 32-bit version of Win7Pro installed on one machine but then
added more memory and installed the 64-bit version.

The one oddity is that on the 64-bit installation, when I click the
'Show Hidden Icons' double-arrow button, the hidden icons do show in the
pop-up box, but when I move the pointing device to click on one of those
the box disappears again. The only way to select one of those items in
the pop-up box is to click the 'Show' button again and keep the button
pressed as I move the pointer up into the box. It didn't work this way
on the 32-bit version: I could click on the 'Show' button then move the
pointer up into the pop-up box.

Once you click the leftward chevron to expand the system tray to show
the hidden icons, you have to keep the mouse cursor positioned within
the system tray. If you move the mouse cursor outside the system tray,
it will collapse to hide the icons.

This includes the clock area in the taskbar (which is NOT part of the
system tray area). If you move the mouse cursor over the clock area
then you are no longer in the system tray and it will collapse again.

While the mouse cursor is within the system tray area, moving it to a
vacant slot there will also collapse the system tray. Say you have a
2-row high Windows taskbar and there are 5 unhidden tray icons showing
or 9 icons total. That leaves a vacant slot for an icon at the lower
right corner. Moving the mouse cursor there will collapse the tray.

If you move the mouse cursor just right of the chevron but to the left
of a used icon slot then the tray will collapse. Between the chevron
edge and the first column of icon slots is an unused space.

You have to expand the tray and then quickly move the mouse cursor and
keep the mouse cursor over a used icon slot in the tray. Anywhere else
results in the tray collapsing.

You say that you click the chevron (Show button) to expand the tray and
then "move up" into the "box" (system tray). Huh? If you move straight
up from the chevron, you move out of the system tray. For the normal
placement of the Windows taskbar at the bottom of the screen, you
initially do not have to move the mouse cursor at all. When the tray
expands, the mouse cursor will already be *inside* the box where then
you can move around between the used icon slots in the tray icon while
it stays expanded.

Many programs don't properly refresh their tray icons, especially when
they unload. They leave behing a remnant icon but as soon as you hover
the mouse cursor atop that icon it then disappears. So maybe you have
ghost icons in your system tray that are disappearing when you hover
over them. Typically that means the other icons get re-sorted (they
move around) but if you're at the bottom or right corner then what
looked like a used icon slot is actually a vacant icon slot.

 

[VanguardLH]

Once you click the leftward chevron to expand the system tray to show
the hidden icons, you have to keep the mouse cursor positioned within
the system tray. If you move the mouse cursor outside the system tray,
it will collapse to hide the icons.

This includes the clock area in the taskbar (which is NOT part of the
system tray area). If you move the mouse cursor over the clock area
then you are no longer in the system tray and it will collapse again.

While the mouse cursor is within the system tray area, moving it to a
vacant slot there will also collapse the system tray. Say you have a
2-row high Windows taskbar and there are 5 unhidden tray icons showing
or 9 icons total. That leaves a vacant slot for an icon at the lower
right corner. Moving the mouse cursor there will collapse the tray.

If you move the mouse cursor just right of the chevron but to the left
of a used icon slot then the tray will collapse. Between the chevron
edge and the first column of icon slots is an unused space.

You have to expand the tray and then quickly move the mouse cursor and
keep the mouse cursor over a used icon slot in the tray. Anywhere else
results in the tray collapsing.

You say that you click the chevron (Show button) to expand the tray and
then "move up" into the "box" (system tray). Huh? If you move straight
up from the chevron, you move out of the system tray. For the normal
placement of the Windows taskbar at the bottom of the screen, you
initially do not have to move the mouse cursor at all. When the tray
expands, the mouse cursor will already be *inside* the box where then
you can move around between the used icon slots in the tray icon while
it stays expanded.

Many programs don't properly refresh their tray icons, especially when
they unload. They leave behing a remnant icon but as soon as you hover
the mouse cursor atop that icon it then disappears. So maybe you have
ghost icons in your system tray that are disappearing when you hover
over them. Typically that means the other icons get re-sorted (they
move around) but if you're at the bottom or right corner then what
looked like a used icon slot is actually a vacant icon slot.

Oops, never mind. I thought the WinXP newsgroup was highlighted when I
was reading posts so I didn't realize this was a Win7 question.

 

[BillW50]

VanguardLH wrote:
Oops, never mind. I thought the WinXP newsgroup was highlighted when
I was reading posts so I didn't realize this was a Win7 question.

Tell the programmers to fix these kinds of bugs within Dialog.

 

[VanguardLH]

Tell the programmers to fix these kinds of bugs within Dialog.

Ooh, lambasted by a user of Windows Live Mail because it has one feature
he cannot emulate in other newsreaders or figure out how to write a
script to alter behavior (if his newsreader offered that option which it
doesn't).

Learn to read. It wasn't the software's fault.

 

[BillW50]

In

Ooh, lambasted by a user of Windows Live Mail because it has one
feature he cannot emulate in other newsreaders or figure out how to
write a script to alter behavior (if his newsreader offered that
option which it doesn't).

Learn to read. It wasn't the software's fault.

Sure it was the software's fault. Why would the XP newsgroup be
highlighted when you were not reading from there? Thunderbird does
stupid stuff like this too. For example when I open a post in a new
window, the header window never moves from the one you opened originally
when you move to the next message or some place else. Why on earth would
programmers be so dumb? And people actually put up with that crap! Why?
And they think that crap is great no less. Just pure stupidity if you
ask me. I won't ever put up with stupid stuff myself.

 

[Char Jackson]

In

Sure it was the software's fault. Why would the XP newsgroup be
highlighted when you were not reading from there? Thunderbird does
stupid stuff like this too. For example when I open a post in a new
window, the header window never moves from the one you opened originally
when you move to the next message or some place else. Why on earth would
programmers be so dumb? And people actually put up with that crap! Why?
And they think that crap is great no less. Just pure stupidity if you
ask me. I won't ever put up with stupid stuff myself.

I can't believe you made it through that mini-rant without mentioning
CTRL-H.

 

[VanguardLH]

Sure it was the software's fault. Why would the XP newsgroup be
highlighted when you were not reading from there?

Bill still can't read. Bill can't comprehend what "I thought" means.
Of course, if he did then he couldn't go off on a tangent rant. I
apologize for MY mistake and he bitches about the newsreader. Guess
Bill is God since he never makes mistakes so it obviously has to be the
fault of the software. All hail Bill.

 

[VanguardLH]

I can't believe you made it through that mini-rant without mentioning
CTRL-H.

Good one. Thankfully I wasn't sipping on my tea at the time or I'd have
to clean up.

 

[BillW50]

In

Bill still can't read. Bill can't comprehend what "I thought" means.
Of course, if he did then he couldn't go off on a tangent rant. I
apologize for MY mistake and he bitches about the newsreader. Guess
Bill is God since he never makes mistakes so it obviously has to be
the fault of the software. All hail Bill.

No, I don't understand how I could ever think the XP newsgroup was
highlighted when it wasn't with any of my favorite newsreaders. Although
I have seen some crappy newsreaders and then I can see it happening.

 

[choro]

In

Who said God doesn't make mistakes? He created woman, didn't he?
-- choro

so it obviously has to be

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Char Jackson wrote:

Good one. Thankfully I wasn't sipping on my tea at the time or I'd have
to clean up.

Over time I have been developing a policy of not drinking tea (more
often coffee) at the computer. Expecially when reading newsgroups. It's
just not safe.

I haven't any idea what BillW50 is talking about in his remarks...

 

[Percival P. Cassidy]

I had the 32-bit version of Win7Pro installed on one machine but then
added more memory and installed the 64-bit version.

The one oddity is that on the 64-bit installation, when I click the
'Show Hidden Icons' double-arrow button, the hidden icons do show in the
pop-up box, but when I move the pointing device to click on one of those
the box disappears again. The only way to select one of those items in
the pop-up box is to click the 'Show' button again and keep the button
pressed as I move the pointer up into the box. It didn't work this way
on the 32-bit version: I could click on the 'Show' button then move the
pointer up into the pop-up box.

Any ideas?

I have now found a similar situation with the task bar: if I RMB on an
icon on the task bar, I get the popup, but when I move the pointer into
that popup the popup and the bar disappear. Holding the button down
doesn't solve the problem.

Perce