restore points

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housetrained

suddenly found myself with only ONE restore point. anyone know what could
have caused this? how to repair?
many thanks.
 
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relic

housetrained said:
suddenly found myself with only ONE restore point. anyone know what could
have caused this? how to repair?
many thanks.
Some updates delete all old restore points when they install.

You can't "repair" deleted restore points.
 
H

housetrained

Some updates delete all old restore points when they install.

You can't "repair" deleted restore points.
No, meant repair the facility BUT just checked and now there is two - must
be as you say - thanks
 
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SC Tom

relic said:
Some updates delete all old restore points when they install.

You can't "repair" deleted restore points.
I know most updates will create a point, but I'm yet to see one that deleted
any old ones. I've got RP's all the way back to late October on my XP
system, and back to January 1st on Win7 (limited by the space restrictions I
imposed). Most of them are "Critical Update" types.
 
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Trev

SC Tom said:
I know most updates will create a point, but I'm yet to see one that
deleted any old ones. I've got RP's all the way back to late October on my
XP system, and back to January 1st on Win7 (limited by the space
restrictions I imposed). Most of them are "Critical Update" types.
Might it depend on how much space is allocated as to when older restore
points are deleted
 
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Andy

Trev said:
Might it depend on how much space is allocated as to when older
restore points are deleted

I'd ask, when does 290 Gigs of HD storeage make that an issue?!?

Andy
 
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Trev

Andy said:
I'd ask, when does 290 Gigs of HD storeage make that an issue?!?

Andy
When its set to only use 4 GBs or less, Do you know what yours is set as?
 
S

SC Tom

Trev said:
Might it depend on how much space is allocated as to when older restore
points are deleted
That's what I said- I have imposed limitations on my Win7 box as to how much
space to use for SR. My XP box has a much larger HDD, so I left it at
default.
 
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relic

SC Tom said:
I know most updates will create a point, but I'm yet to see one that
deleted any old ones. I've got RP's all the way back to late October on my
XP system, and back to January 1st on Win7 (limited by the space
restrictions I imposed). Most of them are "Critical Update" types.
I've seen several over the years, but I haven't paid attention in W7 because
I stopped using System Restore. Every update that can't be removed does
it... and they don't have a Delete option in Add/Remove programs.
 
R

relic

housetrained said:
No, meant repair the facility BUT just checked and now there is two - must
be as you say - thanks
To repair any corruption in restore points, turn System Restore off, reboot,
then you can turn it back on.
 
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SC Tom

relic said:
I've seen several over the years, but I haven't paid attention in W7
because I stopped using System Restore. Every update that can't be removed
does it... and they don't have a Delete option in Add/Remove programs.
Would that include Defender updates? I don't believe they can be removed,
nor have they removed any of my restore points. Since it hasn't happened to
me (and I've used SR since Windows ME), I'd have to see some verified proof
of it happening.

I did a quick search on Google and Microsoft Support and didn't come up with
this reason for losing a point. The closest thing I saw to it was if a large
number of updates were installed at one time or a suite product like Office
was installed, older points were removed because the restore point created
by these scenarios would be so large that older ones were removed to make
room for the new ones. I would imagine that a system that had it's allocated
SR memory reduced to, say, 4 or 5GB, recent points would be removed because
of the size of the new one and the allocation size restraints on the system.
 
S

Seth

SC Tom said:
Would that include Defender updates? I don't believe they can be removed,
nor have they removed any of my restore points. Since it hasn't happened
to me (and I've used SR since Windows ME), I'd have to see some verified
proof of it happening.
Defender updates should affect this as that is an add-on utility (like any
other app) and not intinsic to the operating system.
I did a quick search on Google and Microsoft Support and didn't come up
with this reason for losing a point. The closest thing I saw to it was if
a large number of updates were installed at one time or a suite product
like Office was installed, older points were removed because the restore
point created by these scenarios would be so large that older ones were
removed to make room for the new ones. I would imagine that a system that
had it's allocated SR memory reduced to, say, 4 or 5GB, recent points
would be removed because of the size of the new one and the allocation
size restraints on the system.
Another scenario for restore points disappearing is in a dual boot scenario
between Longhorn (Vista and W7) and XP and indicated in this FAQ...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/System-Restore-frequently-asked-questions
and this KB article
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185


A few other notes I see regarding this issue are if Office 97 or components
of Office 97 are installed.

Any VSS events in the eventlog?

And see if this thread has any advice that applies...
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/53948-why-my-restore-points-disappear.html
 
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SC Tom

Seth said:
Defender updates should affect this as that is an add-on utility (like any
other app) and not intinsic to the operating system.


Another scenario for restore points disappearing is in a dual boot
scenario between Longhorn (Vista and W7) and XP and indicated in this
FAQ...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/System-Restore-frequently-asked-questions
and this KB article
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185


A few other notes I see regarding this issue are if Office 97 or
components of Office 97 are installed.

Any VSS events in the eventlog?

And see if this thread has any advice that applies...
http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/53948-why-my-restore-points-disappear.html
I'm not having a problem with it. I was just trying to get some
clarification of an earlier post.
 
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Andy

Trev said:
When its set to only use 4 GBs or less, Do you know what yours is set
as?

Well, no, actually I don't.

I don't cache where I can. Like in the Firefox browser, with such high
speed Internet, what's the point? Too much overhead redundancy, imho.

Best,

Andy
 

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