Raw network printing doesn't work correctly.

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Fokke Nauta

Hi all,

In a LAN we have a print server (XP). There is a printer (HP3650) attached
by USB. It is shared and all systems can print to it, no problem.
Recently we bought a laptop with Windows 7 (64b). It connects wireless to
the LAN. We can't use the printer on the laptop as there is no Windows 7
driver for the printer. So I figured out a different construction.
On the print server I installed a RAW print server which connects to the
queue of the printer. I used the Raw Print Server 1.00 which is free
available in the internet. On the laptop I created a TCP printer port and I
was able to print a test page! But here is the catch: A test print and a
print from notepad comes out correctly, whereas a print job from Word, Excel
or Autoroute or the likes not. The printer initialises but nothing comes
out. The job comes in the spooler of the print server, the printer
initialises and the job dissapears again. Then I changed the settings on the
laptop, from "printing directly to the printer" into "spooling". Traffic is
bi-directional. Now the job comes out of the printer correctly but remains
in the spooler on the laptop. I now have to stop the print spooler
temporarely and remove the spooler files. Also tried to change
"bi-directional" into "one-way printing" on the laptop, but that didn't work
out as the print jobs kept piled up in the spooler on the server.

Does anyone have an idea, apart from buying a new printer?

Thanks in advance for your help.

With best regards,
Fokke Nauta
 
R

Rob

Hi all,

In a LAN we have a print server (XP). There is a printer (HP3650) attached
by USB. It is shared and all systems can print to it, no problem.
Recently we bought a laptop with Windows 7 (64b). It connects wireless to
the LAN. We can't use the printer on the laptop as there is no Windows 7
driver for the printer. So I figured out a different construction.
On the print server I installed a RAW print server which connects to the
queue of the printer. I used the Raw Print Server 1.00 which is free
available in the internet. On the laptop I created a TCP printer port and I
was able to print a test page! But here is the catch: A test print and a
print from notepad comes out correctly, whereas a print job from Word, Excel
or Autoroute or the likes not. The printer initialises but nothing comes
out. The job comes in the spooler of the print server, the printer
initialises and the job dissapears again. Then I changed the settings on the
laptop, from "printing directly to the printer" into "spooling". Traffic is
bi-directional. Now the job comes out of the printer correctly but remains
in the spooler on the laptop. I now have to stop the print spooler
temporarely and remove the spooler files. Also tried to change
"bi-directional" into "one-way printing" on the laptop, but that didn't work
out as the print jobs kept piled up in the spooler on the server.

Does anyone have an idea, apart from buying a new printer?

Thanks in advance for your help.

With best regards,
Fokke Nauta
Click to expand...
Try installing the HP Universal print driver for Windows 7:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...skId=135&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=503548

HTH,
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Rob said:
Try installing the HP Universal print driver for Windows 7:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...skId=135&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=503548

HTH,
Click to expand...
Hi Rob,

Thanks.
I was happy to see that such a complex matter could be volved so simple and
easy.
However ... I downloaded both Windows & 64-b drivers (PCL6 and PCL5).
Installation went smooth until I had to choose a networked printer. The
printer was found but the installer said "Contacting print server"
(translated) and came with the message Can't find driver for the HP deskjet
3600 series on the network. It let me install the driver by hand, which I
tried. It wanted to see an INF file but the correct INF files were not
there. So - insatallation aborted.
I also found that after unpacking the driver installer, a map was created
with the name xp-vista. It seemed to me that this was not a correct Windows
7 driver.

Back to square one.

Regards,
Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
Hi Rob,

Thanks.
I was happy to see that such a complex matter could be volved so simple
and easy.
However ... I downloaded both Windows & 64-b drivers (PCL6 and PCL5).
Installation went smooth until I had to choose a networked printer. The
printer was found but the installer said "Contacting print server"
(translated) and came with the message Can't find driver for the HP
deskjet 3600 series on the network. It let me install the driver by hand,
which I tried. It wanted to see an INF file but the correct INF files were
not there. So - insatallation aborted.
I also found that after unpacking the driver installer, a map was created
with the name xp-vista. It seemed to me that this was not a correct
Windows 7 driver.

Back to square one.

Regards,
Fokke
Click to expand...
Did you try Virtual XP Mode?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

I didn't try XP mode myself yet, but all my old XP printers, scanners e.t.c.
run well in my VMware XP - VM ;-)
 
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Fokke Nauta

Did you try Virtual XP Mode?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

I didn't try XP mode myself yet, but all my old XP printers, scanners
e.t.c. run well in my VMware XP - VM ;-)
Click to expand...
Interesting.
On my own PC I have VMWare. I am a but reluctant to set up a VM on my
laptop, but XP mode seems interesting. I will have a try and see what it is
and how it works.
I"ll come back to you.

Fokke
 
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Fokke Nauta

Fokke Nauta said:
Interesting.
On my own PC I have VMWare. I am a but reluctant to set up a VM on my
laptop, but XP mode seems interesting. I will have a try and see what it
is and how it works.
I"ll come back to you.

Fokke
Click to expand...
XP mode is only available in Win 7 professional and ultimate versions.

Fokke
 
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Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
XP mode is only available in Win 7 professional and ultimate versions.

Fokke
Click to expand...
That's a pity, maybe your last resort is to install XP as a client in Vmware
(player will do as well) and then install your printer in the XP client.
It's a workaround but it should work seamlessly.
I have this old A3 printer that doesn't work in Vista, nor Win7.
My printjobs are done via the XP-VM.
b.t.w.
The nice part is that I assigned 1Gig RAM to the XP client.
In all the years I worked with XP, I have never seen a faster XP than this
one ;-)
 
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Fokke Nauta

Clogwog said:
That's a pity, maybe your last resort is to install XP as a client in
Vmware (player will do as well) and then install your printer in the XP
client.
It's a workaround but it should work seamlessly.
I have this old A3 printer that doesn't work in Vista, nor Win7.
My printjobs are done via the XP-VM.
b.t.w.
The nice part is that I assigned 1Gig RAM to the XP client.
In all the years I worked with XP, I have never seen a faster XP than this
one ;-)
Click to expand...
I guess you're right. I then will need to uninstall all app's, set up a
large XP machine in VMWare, install all app's on that machine and work from
there. Not happy with that, but it is likely to be the only solution. And
perhaps it will be fast. On the laptop there is 4 G of RAM, so there will be
plenty available for the XP machine.

Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
I guess you're right. I then will need to uninstall all app's, set up a
large XP machine in VMWare, install all app's on that machine and work
from there. Not happy with that, but it is likely to be the only solution.
And perhaps it will be fast. On the laptop there is 4 G of RAM, so there
will be plenty available for the XP machine.

Fokke
Click to expand...
A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe ?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not required for
USB or Network connected printers, however Network printers do require basic
printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic
(32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic (64-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
(64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds support
for additional products, now includes support for networked printers, and
the user interface now supports multiple languages.
 
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Fokke Nauta

A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe ?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not required
for USB or Network connected printers, however Network printers do require
basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic
(32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic (64-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Professional (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds support
for additional products, now includes support for networked printers, and
the user interface now supports multiple languages.
Click to expand...
Thanks, that looks promising. However, it says: "Network printers do require
basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard". And we're
talking about a network printer.
But I'll give it a try.

Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe ?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not required
for USB or Network connected printers, however Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Basic (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (32-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Basic
(64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Professional (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds
support for additional products, now includes support for networked
printers, and the user interface now supports multiple languages.
Click to expand...
Thanks, that looks promising. However, it says: "Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard". And
we're talking about a network printer.
But I'll give it a try.

Fokke
Click to expand...
"basic printer driver installation" means USB install.
Is it possible to connect the printer to the laptop by USB?
According to the hardware section of the Windows 7 compatibility center your
printer is compatible (64bit)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...s/Search.aspx?l=en-us&type=Hardware&s=HP 3650
If installed, use the wizard from there to find your printer in the network
and get the right driver.
HTH
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Clogwog said:
Fokke Nauta said:
A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe ?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not required
for USB or Network connected printers, however Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Basic (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise
(32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Home Basic (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds
support for additional products, now includes support for networked
printers, and the user interface now supports multiple languages.
Click to expand...
Thanks, that looks promising. However, it says: "Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard".
And we're talking about a network printer.
But I'll give it a try.

Fokke
Click to expand...
"basic printer driver installation" means USB install.
Is it possible to connect the printer to the laptop by USB?
Click to expand...
Yep. I have had the printer installed as a USB printer as well. That worked
fine.
According to the hardware section of the Windows 7 compatibility center
your printer is compatible (64bit)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...s/Search.aspx?l=en-us&type=Hardware&s=HP 3650
If installed, use the wizard from there to find your printer in the
network and get the right driver.
HTH
Click to expand...
OK. I'm gonna give it a try right now!

Fokke
 
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Fokke Nauta

Fokke Nauta said:
Clogwog said:
Fokke Nauta said:
<cut>

A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe ?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not required
for USB or Network connected printers, however Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Basic (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise
(32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Home Basic (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds
support for additional products, now includes support for networked
printers, and the user interface now supports multiple languages.

Thanks, that looks promising. However, it says: "Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard".
And we're talking about a network printer.
But I'll give it a try.

Fokke
Click to expand...
"basic printer driver installation" means USB install.
Is it possible to connect the printer to the laptop by USB?
Click to expand...
Yep. I have had the printer installed as a USB printer as well. That
worked fine.
According to the hardware section of the Windows 7 compatibility center
your printer is compatible (64bit)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...s/Search.aspx?l=en-us&type=Hardware&s=HP 3650
If installed, use the wizard from there to find your printer in the
network and get the right driver.
HTH
Click to expand...
OK. I'm gonna give it a try right now!

Fokke
Click to expand...
HP again. Forget it :-(
The wizard says that a printer has been found (the installed USB printer)
and that this printer will be connected. That's it. It can search for new
printers but only when they are connected by USB. So - no network
availability.
But thanks for the hint. It was a good try.

Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
Fokke Nauta said:
Clogwog said:
"Fokke Nauta" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht


<cut>

A real PITA for you!
b.t.w. did you run HP Printer Install Wizard for Windows 7: hppiw.exe
?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&dlc=en&cc=us&os=4063&product=304535&sw_lang=

File name:hppiw.exe [1/1, 1.0M]
System requirements:OS support: Windows 7, 32/64 bit

Connectivity: USB and network printers.

Software: HP Full Feature product software installation is not
required for USB or Network connected printers, however Network
printers do require basic printer driver installation in order to use
the Wizard.
Released:2011-03-18
Version:1.2
Compatibility:Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home
Basic (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 Professional (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise
(32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Home Basic (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit),
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7
Enterprise (64-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Microsoft
Windows 7 (64-bit)
Fix/Enhancement:This version of the HP Printer Install Wizard adds
support for additional products, now includes support for networked
printers, and the user interface now supports multiple languages.

Thanks, that looks promising. However, it says: "Network printers do
require basic printer driver installation in order to use the Wizard".
And we're talking about a network printer.
But I'll give it a try.

Fokke

"basic printer driver installation" means USB install.
Is it possible to connect the printer to the laptop by USB?
Click to expand...
Yep. I have had the printer installed as a USB printer as well. That
worked fine.
According to the hardware section of the Windows 7 compatibility center
your printer is compatible (64bit)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/co...s/Search.aspx?l=en-us&type=Hardware&s=HP 3650
If installed, use the wizard from there to find your printer in the
network and get the right driver.
HTH
Click to expand...
OK. I'm gonna give it a try right now!

Fokke
Click to expand...
HP again. Forget it :-(
The wizard says that a printer has been found (the installed USB printer)
and that this printer will be connected. That's it. It can search for new
printers but only when they are connected by USB. So - no network
availability.
But thanks for the hint. It was a good try.

Fokke
Click to expand...
Well, HP has a history of bad support in the driver field.
I'm out of options, I hope you get it to work in an XP-VM.
 
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Fokke Nauta

Clogwog said:
"Fokke Nauta" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht


Well, HP has a history of bad support in the driver field.
I'm out of options, I hope you get it to work in an XP-VM.
Click to expand...
I have installed VMWare with a XP machine. And I like it!
Printing? No problem. I now can even use the shared Outlook agenda!
I'll keep it this way.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
I have installed VMWare with a XP machine. And I like it!
Printing? No problem. I now can even use the shared Outlook agenda!
I'll keep it this way.
Click to expand...
Yes, virtualisation is great!
I run Linux Ubuntu, XP, even Win 311 (with an older version of the Opera
browser, cos IE doesn't work) in a VM.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Any time, sir!
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Yes, virtualisation is great!
I run Linux Ubuntu, XP, even Win 311 (with an older version of the Opera
browser, cos IE doesn't work) in a VM.

Any time, sir!
Click to expand...
I use it for trying out the different Linux versions. I also have Vista and
Windows 7 installed as a VM to write course stuff. My workstation is still
XP Pro.
I tried to install Win 3.11 just for fun, but it didn't want to get
installed. So I ditched it all together.
Now having XP in a VM on the laptop is great. The laptop has a Windows 7
64-b OS, and a lot of app's didn't want to run on that. Now I'm having back
an XP environment and I'm quite happy!
And, fully agree, virtualisation is great indeed!

Regards,
Fokke
 
C

Clogwog

Fokke Nauta said:
I use it for trying out the different Linux versions. I also have Vista
and Windows 7 installed as a VM to write course stuff. My workstation is
still XP Pro.
I tried to install Win 3.11 just for fun, but it didn't want to get
installed. So I ditched it all together.
Click to expand...
You have to install Dos 6.22 iso first, then Win 3.11
http://www.allbootdisks.com/download/iso.html
Old versions Opera , Opera 3.6 (1.3 MB)
http://www.oldversion.com/Opera.html
My VMware screenshot of Win 3.11
http://bayimg.com/HAHBNAaDn
Memory 16 MB
1 processor
CD autodetect
Floppy A:
HD 800 MB
Network: Bridged

VMware rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
 
F

Fokke Nauta

You have to install Dos 6.22 iso first, then Win 3.11
http://www.allbootdisks.com/download/iso.html
Click to expand...
Well, Dos and Windows 3.11 don't live here anymore. I got rid of it.
Nice memories, but now we live in different times.
I can remember replacing the X86 processor for the NEC V20, and to install
Windows 3.11 it took 13 floppies.
And, instead of DOS I used 4DOS.
Old versions Opera , Opera 3.6 (1.3 MB)
http://www.oldversion.com/Opera.html
My VMware screenshot of Win 3.11
http://bayimg.com/HAHBNAaDn
Click to expand...
Let me guess. Dutch?
Memory 16 MB
1 processor
CD autodetect
Floppy A:
HD 800 MB
Network: Bridged

VMware rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
Click to expand...
Yes, it does. And I use it quite often.

<cut>

Best regards,
Fokke
 
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