program

E

Eric

Anyone know how to keep the program "MyWinLocker" from loading at boot
and to keep it out of my toolbar?
 
C

Char Jackson

Anyone know how to keep the program "MyWinLocker" from loading at boot
and to keep it out of my toolbar?
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Have you tried the usual ways and they didn't work, or are you
starting from scratch? Tell us what you've tried and what results you
saw.
 
A

Auric__

HoneyMonster said:
Put the link inside chevrons and you don't need to issue warnings:

<http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25221396-WIN7-How-do-I-Uninstall-
MyWinLocker-Suite>
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It shows up wrapped coming from you, let's try it coming from me:
<http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25221396-WIN7-How-do-I-Uninstall-
MyWinLocker-Suite>

It's wrapped here; I assume it'll be wrapped after it's posted.

....unless you're saying that people would be able to figure it out themselves
based on the fact that it's contained within the angle brackets? In which
case, no. To paraphrase many people, you can never underestimate people's
intelligence.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Wrong again, Mr. Troll.

Go home, please, and stop intentionally spreading misinformation.
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I was thinking, maybe he meant that if you used chevrons, you were not
required by law to issue warnings, even though they don't change the
behavior of the URLs :)
 
N

Nil

I was thinking, maybe he meant that if you used chevrons, you were
not required by law to issue warnings, even though they don't
change the behavior of the URLs :)
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Man, I have so much trouble remembering all those arcane Internet Laws
of Practice and Behavior! We're quite lucky to have Mr. HoneyTroll to
remind us.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

No need to be nasty. Putting chevrons around it _does_ help in some
cases - depending on the newsreader; of course, after one person has
posted it with chevrons, another person reposting it can still break it
even for the newsreaders where it would work otherwise.
I was thinking, maybe he meant that if you used chevrons, you were not
required by law to issue warnings, even though they don't change the
behavior of the URLs :)
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(-:. It is a useful convention - seeing "<http:.." should make you look
out for a long URL. (Warn still if you think some of your audience might
not know about the chevrons, I suppose.)
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Man, I have so much trouble remembering all those arcane Internet Laws
of Practice and Behavior! We're quite lucky to have Mr. HoneyTroll to
remind us.
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Thanks for waiting until I had finished my coffee. I had a good laugh
from that, but I would have been really upset if the coffee had splashed
all over everything.
 
N

Nil

Then you - or those you've asked - have a newsreader that does not
know about the chevron convention. I have certainly used ones in
which the chevrons _do_ make a difference (until someone _else_
breaks the long URL).
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Maybe some of them do, but none of the ones I use do, with one
exception.
FWIW, Outlook (not Outlook Express - I haven't tried that) knows
about the chevrons, at least in email, at least for filenames: at
work, if I want to tell a colleague the path-and-filename of a
file I've created, that happens to have spaces in it, putting it
in chevrons makes the link to the file still work. I suspect it
would with long URLs too.
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I just sent myself a test text (not HTML) email with a deliberately
wrapped URL enclosed in chevrons. None of the email programs I have
available (Pegasus, Outlook Express, Outlook 2003, Thunderbird, or
Comcast's webmail) can deal with it.

I just sent myself a test newsgroup post containing this
deliberately wrapped URL:

<http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-forecas
t.asp>

....to alt.test. None of the newsreaders I have available (Xnews,
Outlook Express, Thunderbird) could deal with it... EXCEPT MesNews,
which managed to unwrap the URL and make it clickable (it added a
couple of spurious characters to the end of the URL, but either
Firefox or the web site ignored them.)

So I had an almost 100% failure rate. I don't think you can depend
on the chevrons to "cure" wrapped URLs. The only reliable thing is
to make sure they are shorter then the typical line length of 70 -
80 characters, and use something like TinyURL if they exceed that.
 
N

Nil

My ancient version of Agent is chevron-aware. If I post a long URL
without the chevrons, Agent will wrap it as if it was standard
text, but if I wrap it in chevrons Agent will treat it as a string
that must be respected as a single object and not break.
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But the question is, will Agent unwrap a wrapped URL that's enclosed
in chevrons? The example I gave in another post was:

<http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-fo
recast.asp>

I'm predicting that it will not survive as a clickable link to Agent.


When I post a long URL in Xnews, I have to turn off wordwrapping in
order for the URL to not wrap. In that case, it doesn't seem to matter
whether I enclose it in chevrons or not, it survives as clickable.
So, it's the fact that it doesn't get wrapped - the chevrons
themselves don't do anything. Example:

http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-forecast.asp
 
C

Char Jackson

But the question is, will Agent unwrap a wrapped URL that's enclosed
in chevrons? The example I gave in another post was:

<http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-fo
recast.asp>

I'm predicting that it will not survive as a clickable link to Agent.
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Right, because the chevrons don't undo a wrapped URL, they're supposed
to prevent it from wrapping in the first place. In that respect, Agent
is successful.
When I post a long URL in Xnews, I have to turn off wordwrapping in
order for the URL to not wrap. In that case, it doesn't seem to matter
whether I enclose it in chevrons or not, it survives as clickable.
So, it's the fact that it doesn't get wrapped - the chevrons
themselves don't do anything. Example:

http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10017/city-weather-forecast.asp
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Since Agent is chevron-aware, I don't have to worry about line wrap
when I post long URLs.
 
N

Nil

Right, because the chevrons don't undo a wrapped URL, they're
supposed to prevent it from wrapping in the first place. In that
respect, Agent is successful.
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But that's what started this whole thread. The visiting troll implied
that enclosing a wrapped URL in chevrons will cause it to be readable.
Since Agent is chevron-aware, I don't have to worry about line
wrap when I post long URLs.
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I'd say most news and mail readers are "chevron aware" to the extent
that when they encounter a URL in the middle of a sentence, they will
present it as a clickable link, but exclude the chevrons themselves. If
you're saying that Agent is smart enough to recognize a string of text
in the clipboard when it's formatted as a URL and not wrap it as it
when pasting, as it would with other text... well, that's a very nice
feature and smart design on Forte's part.
 
C

Char Jackson

But that's what started this whole thread. The visiting troll implied
that enclosing a wrapped URL in chevrons will cause it to be readable.
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Well, to be fair, he was half right when he said "Put the link inside
chevrons and you don't need to issue warnings".

Wrapping the link with chevrons is the first step, but you still need
to be using a newsreader that knows what to do when it encounters text
wrapped in chevrons while posting. His newsreader failed the second
test.
I'd say most news and mail readers are "chevron aware" to the extent
that when they encounter a URL in the middle of a sentence, they will
present it as a clickable link, but exclude the chevrons themselves. If
you're saying that Agent is smart enough to recognize a string of text
in the clipboard when it's formatted as a URL and not wrap it as it
when pasting, as it would with other text... well, that's a very nice
feature and smart design on Forte's part.
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Yep!

By the way, look how long this thread has gone on already. HoneyTroll
was successful again.
 
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