Program Security Control

[Panic]

I use the recommended security and Win7 always asks me to approve certain
programs that I launch. For example, I use PaintShopPro quite a bit and
when I use it, I always get the screen window asking me if I really want to
use this program. In previous versions I could click an option to always
allow this program to run and that would stop this approval drill. Is there
any way to accomplish that with Win7 without resorting to the minimum
security setting?

 

[johnbee]

I use the recommended security and Win7 always asks me to approve certain
programs that I launch. For example, I use PaintShopPro quite a bit and
when I use it, I always get the screen window asking me if I really want
to use this program. In previous versions I could click an option to
always allow this program to run and that would stop this approval drill.
Is there any way to accomplish that with Win7 without resorting to the
minimum security setting?

No there isn't. The idea is that software providers should deal with this
by designing software for non-admin users.

 

[Dave-UK]

I use the recommended security and Win7 always asks me to approve certain
programs that I launch. For example, I use PaintShopPro quite a bit and
when I use it, I always get the screen window asking me if I really want to
use this program. In previous versions I could click an option to always
allow this program to run and that would stop this approval drill. Is there
any way to accomplish that with Win7 without resorting to the minimum
security setting?

There are two things you could try:
1) Create a task with the required privileges to run the program.
or
2) Uninstall Paint Shop Pro and re-install it, but this time install to:
C:\Users instead of C:\Program Files.

 

[Panic]

There are two things you could try:
1) Create a task with the required privileges to run the program.
or
2) Uninstall Paint Shop Pro and re-install it, but this time install to:
C:\Users instead of C:\Program Files.

In 2., would that be C:\Users or C:\Users\(my user name)? Just to see I
copied my PaintShopPro folder and pasted it under C:\Users\my user name. I
copied the program .exe file and pasted a shortcut to it on my desktop. It
now opens immediately. It "lost" the routing to a few previously opened
files but I was able to open them from this folder's program and it works
perfect and new files are found correctly. Do you see any problems with
having done it this way rather than uninstalling and re-installing it? I'm
the only user on this computer. If I had pasted it under C:\User would that
make it available to any other user? Right now I have two folders for PSP,
one under Program Files (x86) and one under Users\my user name.

 

[Seth]

In 2., would that be C:\Users or C:\Users\(my user name)? Just to see I
copied my PaintShopPro folder and pasted it under C:\Users\my user name.
I

If you're the only user on the machine, C:\Users\my\user_name would be fine.
Me, I would put it in C:\Users\Public.

 

[Panic]

If you're the only user on the machine, C:\Users\my\user_name would be
fine. Me, I would put it in C:\Users\Public.

Thanks, Seth. I have already found a problem with my not having uninstalled
and re-installed PSP. With 2 copies of that program when I open a .jpg it
always opens in the old PSP status and I have to click OK to use PSP. Even
if I ignore the PSP program that shows with Open With and browse to the new
folder and choose that .exe file it still asks for permission. But if I
open the PSP program from that new shortcut I can load a jpg and it doesn't
ask for permission. I no longer have the installation program. What do you
think would happen if I copied the PSP folder to my USB drive and then
uninstalled it from my computer. And then copy/pasted that folder to
C:\Users\Public and then copy/pasted a shortcut to that .exe file?
Do you think it would run OK even though it is now not "installed"?

 

[Seth]

Thanks, Seth. I have already found a problem with my not having
uninstalled and re-installed PSP. With 2 copies of that program when I
open a .jpg it always opens in the old PSP status and I have to click OK
to use PSP. Even

Yes, most programs need to be installed in the location you wish to run them
from and not just copied or moved there. Option 2 above, which we are
discussing the best location of, specifically says to uninstall then
re-install to new location.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

In 2., would that be C:\Users or C:\Users\(my user name)? Just to see I
copied my PaintShopPro folder and pasted it under C:\Users\my user name. I
copied the program .exe file and pasted a shortcut to it on my desktop. It
now opens immediately. It "lost" the routing to a few previously opened
files but I was able to open them from this folder's program and it works
perfect and new files are found correctly. Do you see any problems with
having done it this way rather than uninstalling and re-installing it? I'm
the only user on this computer. If I had pasted it under C:\User would that
make it available to any other user? Right now I have two folders for PSP,
one under Program Files (x86) and one under Users\my user name.

To add my 0.2 dime's worth to Seth's advice:

There are possible registry entries, possible environment variables, and
as you already mentioned in this thread, possible file associations that
have to be set properly, just to name the ones I can think of. The
installer does this stuff, and the uninstaller is supposed to undo it
(but uninstallers usually don't all that they should). copying or
moving stuff is usually inadequate.

There are programs that can run off of a thumb drive, BTW. They are very
self-contained, and so they can also be installed anywhere on a hard
drive with no problem, as long as the intended user has access to the
installation directory.

On this machine, I created a folder "C:\Programs (Other)". That's where
I install my programs that have permission problems in Vista and W7. As
for who has access to them, that is usually a selection made during the
installation, although not every program gives you the choice. And I
would think that installing in Users would be problematic, but that's
just a guess.

Another thing: I don't like the name I gave that folder, but every other
name I thought of was even worse

 

[Panic]

Yes, most programs need to be installed in the location you wish to run
them from and not just copied or moved there. Option 2 above, which we are
discussing the best location of, specifically says to uninstall then
re-install to new location.

Hmmm. My version of PSP doesn't show up in Control Panel Programs to BE
uninstalled. Perhaps because it's such an old program that it is not really
"installed" as such and perhaps can be merely deleted. I did find an old
install program for it. If I delete both folders perhaps I can do the
regular install and put it in Users\Public?

 

[Seth]

Hmmm. My version of PSP doesn't show up in Control Panel Programs to BE
uninstalled. Perhaps because it's such an old program that it is not
really "installed" as such and perhaps can be merely deleted. I did find
an old install program for it. If I delete both folders perhaps I can do
the regular install and put it in Users\Public?

Maybe. Or maybe just running the install program again will give options for
removal. And then 1 more running to install in desired location.

 

[Dave-UK]

In 2., would that be C:\Users or C:\Users\(my user name)? Just to see I
copied my PaintShopPro folder and pasted it under C:\Users\my user name. I
copied the program .exe file and pasted a shortcut to it on my desktop. It
now opens immediately. It "lost" the routing to a few previously opened
files but I was able to open them from this folder's program and it works
perfect and new files are found correctly. Do you see any problems with
having done it this way rather than uninstalling and re-installing it? I'm
the only user on this computer. If I had pasted it under C:\User would that
make it available to any other user? Right now I have two folders for PSP,
one under Program Files (x86) and one under Users\my user name.

It should be installed and not copied over.
If you are the only user then C:\Users would probably be ok.
Ideally I think it should be installed to C:\Users\Your Folder.
If you can't install it then you'll have to copy whatever you can
over to the new location and hope for the best.
You'll have to disable the original version. If you get any
file-path type errors then as you correct them the program's
registry settings will hopefully update.

The reason you're getting UAC prompts is probably because
Paint Shop Pro wants to write data to the Program Files folder
and Win7 regards that folder as a restricted or system-type folder.

 

[Panic]

Maybe. Or maybe just running the install program again will give options
for removal. And then 1 more running to install in desired location.

Whoops. The program won't install. Win7 says it's not compatible (even
though it seems to work just fine the way it is. I simply had copied the
PSP program from my old computer onto my new one and used it's .exe file to
run it.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:36:22 -0700, Panic wrote:


I agree - or there might be an uninstaller in the program's directory.

Whoops. The program won't install. Win7 says it's not compatible (even
though it seems to work just fine the way it is. I simply had copied the
PSP program from my old computer onto my new one and used it's .exe file to
run it.

Try running the *installer* (not the app) in compatibility mode for XP
or some such. Later, if it gets installed, you might want to set up the
program itself to run in the same mode.

 

[Valorie *~~]

I use the recommended security and Win7 always asks me to approve certain
programs that I launch. For example, I use PaintShopPro quite a bit and
when I use it, I always get the screen window asking me if I really want to
use this program. In previous versions I could click an option to always
allow this program to run and that would stop this approval drill. Is
there any way to accomplish that with Win7 without resorting to the minimum
security setting?

Yes there is but I can't find that bar again. It's difficult finding
anything on W-7. If you can find it somewhere in security, run it to the
bottom.