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[Metspitzer]

Two things
I have seen on TV where you can scan a check with your smart phone and
send it to the bank for a direct deposit. I called Wells Fargo to see
if I could just fax a check to have it deposited. The bank said no.
She said that a phone has an added tracking measure.

I get blood labs done. The hospital refuses to email me the results.
They have to print the labs and then fax them to me. It is not a very
big deal, but since my fax is on the same number as voice it is a
little inconvenient.

I don't have a smart phone, but my nephew does. Could the hospital
securely send my labs to my nephews phone? If this was possible, then
there would be no need to have to be ready for a fax to get my labs.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Two things
I have seen on TV where you can scan a check with your smart phone and
send it to the bank for a direct deposit. I called Wells Fargo to see
if I could just fax a check to have it deposited. The bank said no.
She said that a phone has an added tracking measure.

I get blood labs done. The hospital refuses to email me the results.
They have to print the labs and then fax them to me. It is not a very
big deal, but since my fax is on the same number as voice it is a
little inconvenient.

I don't have a smart phone, but my nephew does. Could the hospital
securely send my labs to my nephews phone? If this was possible, then
there would be no need to have to be ready for a fax to get my labs.

The hospital is more likely than anyone here to be able to answer that,
if you can find the right person to ask (which is probably not a trivial
exercise).

 

[Metspitzer]

The hospital is more likely than anyone here to be able to answer that,
if you can find the right person to ask (which is probably not a trivial
exercise).

That would be another useful feature for a smart phone. Receive fax.

My fax machine is supposed to be able to tell voice from fax, but I
have never been able to get that to work right and I have had more
than one multifunction printer.

 

[Zaidy036]

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get an eFax Free number and receive FAXs attached to an email.

See: http://www.efax.com/efax-free

 

[Metspitzer]

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get an eFax Free number and receive FAXs attached to an email.

See: http://www.efax.com/efax-free

I may give that a try.
Thanks

 

[Allen Drake]

Two things
I have seen on TV where you can scan a check with your smart phone and
send it to the bank for a direct deposit. I called Wells Fargo to see
if I could just fax a check to have it deposited. The bank said no.
She said that a phone has an added tracking measure.

I get blood labs done. The hospital refuses to email me the results.
They have to print the labs and then fax them to me. It is not a very
big deal, but since my fax is on the same number as voice it is a
little inconvenient.

I don't have a smart phone, but my nephew does. Could the hospital
securely send my labs to my nephews phone? If this was possible, then
there would be no need to have to be ready for a fax to get my labs.

Just give them the number and don't say anything more. Tell them that
is your fax number and you still have the same voice number.

 

[Joe from NY]

Just give them the number and don't say anything more. Tell them that
is your fax number and you still have the same voice number.

I think the problem is that he needs to be by the fax machine when the
transmission is made, to switch to fax-receive mode. Not practical if you
don't know when the fax is coming.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I think the problem is that he needs to be by the fax machine when the
transmission is made, to switch to fax-receive mode. Not practical if you
don't know when the fax is coming.

I agree.

That's also my situation, so when I am supposed to get a fax, I tell the
sender to do it at a prearranged time, or that I'll let them know when
I'm ready.

Then I quickly reread the printer manual, because I do it so rarely that
I have to review the procedure every time

 

[Artreid]

Has anyone here figured this out as it would seem to be the ideal solution
especially since its already built-in to fax machines.
Is this feature also built-in to internal computer fax/modem cards?

 

[Char Jackson]

Has anyone here figured this out as it would seem to be the ideal solution
especially since its already built-in to fax machines.
Is this feature also built-in to internal computer fax/modem cards?

I think every dial-up modem I had between about 1988 and 1996 had that
feature, and I don't remember having a single problem getting it to
work across multiple pieces of fax software. I switched to cable
Internet in 1996 and ditched every dial-up modem I could find, so my
experience ends there. Still, it's a mature feature that should be
trivial to set up, assuming current fax software does its part.

 

[Allen Drake]

I think the problem is that he needs to be by the fax machine when the
transmission is made, to switch to fax-receive mode. Not practical if you
don't know when the fax is coming.

Maybe I am missing something but if he had that sent to his nephews
like he asked then there would be no waiting, right? Then his nephew
could email it to him. This procedure can be set up to be done
automatically.

 

[Paul]

Has anyone here figured this out as it would seem to be the ideal
solution especially since its already built-in to fax machines.
Is this feature also built-in to internal computer fax/modem cards?

Is it triggered by the usage of Distinctive Ringing ?

http://modemsite.com/56k/voice.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinctive_ring

You can have a phone company feature added, where there are two phone
numbers, but they both cause the same phone line to ring. The
"ring cadence" is changed, as a function of whether the incoming
call is intended for a FAX machine, or for a voice device. If
a FAX machine can listen for Distinctive Ringing, then it might
only pick up the line when that is present.

As usual, the phone company might charge a couple bucks a month,
to add Distinctive Ringing for a second phone number. Even though
it flows over the same single line. You can't handle a FAX and
voice call at the same time, because it is just a single line.
Only the ringing feature is added. So it doesn't cost the
phone company much in resources (unless you're in an exchange
which is "tight on available numbers").

Paul

 

[Metspitzer]

Maybe I am missing something but if he had that sent to his nephews
like he asked then there would be no waiting, right? Then his nephew
could email it to him. This procedure can be set up to be done
automatically.

Or he could just print them to my printer.

I just asked him. He checked his help file. Receiving faxes doesn't
seem to be an option on his phone. I guess that means that sending
faxes is out too. It would be useful.

 

[John Williamson]

On 14/07/2012 19:38, Metspitzer wrote:
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I just asked him. He checked his help file. Receiving faxes doesn't
seem to be an option on his phone. I guess that means that sending
faxes is out too. It would be useful.

The last cellphone I'm aware of that could send and receive faxes as
standalone unit was the Nokia 9500 Communicator. If anyone knows of a
later one, I'd appreciate them letting me know which one it is, as my
9500 is definitely living on borrowed time.

In good condition, they still sell for well over GBP 100 second hand
because of this feature.

 

[bj]

Has anyone here figured this out as it would seem to be the ideal
solution especially since its already built-in to fax machines.
Is this feature also built-in to internal computer fax/modem cards?

I've been using a Panasonic phone/fax/answering machine for many years
(replaced the first one when it started going wonky-print and the answering
machine recorder got creaky-old-sounding on its *tape* & it was too old or
expensive to get new innards for easily -- plus the new one uses regular
paper). It auto-switches to fax-receive when it hears the incoming
fax-tone; if I happen to answer the phone (after all I don't always know
it's going to be a fax, which I don't get that many of) I just need to
press the receive button.

I don't know if they still make such a critter but it's perfect for my very
modest needs WRT occasional faxing.
bj

 

[Allen Drake]

Or he could just print them to my printer.

I just asked him. He checked his help file. Receiving faxes doesn't
seem to be an option on his phone. I guess that means that sending
faxes is out too. It would be useful.

A real cheap way to get a fax line is to use MagicJack. I have one on
one of my systems and it works great as a second line but I have never
faxed with it but can be done.

http://www.magicjacksupport.com/magic-jack-fax-you-can-do-it-t10706.html

 

[Metspitzer]

A real cheap way to get a fax line is to use MagicJack. I have one on
one of my systems and it works great as a second line but I have never
faxed with it but can be done.

http://www.magicjacksupport.com/magic-jack-fax-you-can-do-it-t10706.html

I tried MagicJack. "Works great" is not the way I would describe it.
I sent mine back.

I would have kept the MJ if it just had a reliable way to voice mail.
Voice mail worked, but not every time. I could have put up with
occasionally (or frequently) missing outgoing calls, but not incoming.

 

[Paul]

A real cheap way to get a fax line is to use MagicJack. I have one on
one of my systems and it works great as a second line but I have never
faxed with it but can be done.

http://www.magicjacksupport.com/magic-jack-fax-you-can-do-it-t10706.html

Digital circuits used to carry voice band, are far from ideal.
(I'm not talking about T1 lines and time slots, but about
packetized transmission schemes with jitter.)

The FAX protocol and modulation method, weren't designed with
those impairments in mind.

While you can sometimes get FAX to work, by switching from 14400 baud
to 9600 baud, that might still not be enough to make it work.

Some voice handling schemes, attempt to do 4:1 compression, to reduce
bandwidth requirements, and that's the sort of thing that would
ruin a FAX signal. If a voice call is "barely intelligible", there's
no reason for FAX to work.

Paul