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[Stewart]

Please excuse if this dealt with already but I cannot get a simple answer to
my problem.
I bought a new desktop one month ago running windows 7 with a 64 bit
processor.
I also have a laptop running windows 7 but with a 32 bit processor.
I have tried all I can think of to get the 2 to interconnect but no great
success. The desktop is wired to the router and the laptop uses wireless.
I can get the machine to recognise each other and to access the public
folders but not the personal ones. If I go to "Network>STEWART>Users" then
the only 2 available are "Default" and "Public"
obviously I can transfer any folders I want from Stewart to Public and
access them from there but that is just as tedious as copying them to a
flash memory stick or copying to my external hard drive. Note that I cannot
get IPv6 activated so do not want to use Homegroup but Workgroup.
Can anyone tell me how to make my name replace the "Default" or "Public"
user?
Thank you

 

[Paul]

Please excuse if this dealt with already but I cannot get a simple
answer to my problem.
I bought a new desktop one month ago running windows 7 with a 64 bit
processor.
I also have a laptop running windows 7 but with a 32 bit processor.
I have tried all I can think of to get the 2 to interconnect but no
great success. The desktop is wired to the router and the laptop uses
wireless.
I can get the machine to recognise each other and to access the public
folders but not the personal ones. If I go to "Network>STEWART>Users"
then the only 2 available are "Default" and "Public"
obviously I can transfer any folders I want from Stewart to Public and
access them from there but that is just as tedious as copying them to a
flash memory stick or copying to my external hard drive. Note that I
cannot get IPv6 activated so do not want to use Homegroup but Workgroup.
Can anyone tell me how to make my name replace the "Default" or "Public"
user?
Thank you

I'm the last person you want to talk to about Windows file
permissions Because I don't really understand them. I
come from a Unix backgroup, where the basic permission model
makes more sense. (The optional stuff is less uniform.)

The computer uses a permissions model, to control who has access
to files. On the network, it might mean having the same account
and password on the two machines, so the machines will think it is
the same person.

So if one machine, you're logging in as "Ben" and on the other
machine, the only account is "Jerry", then that might not work
very well. If there was a Ben on both machines, then a Ben with
the same password on another machine might see the files.

If the permissions on some files were all made public, then
perhaps anybody can get at them. But in a directory tree,
the entire tree would have to get permission settings,
so you can "browse your way" down to the file you want.

As for networking options, if all the machines are Windows 7,
you could read up on the setup of a "HomeGroup". If the computer
mix includes modern machines and older machines, then you
want to set up a WORKGROUP. The WORKGROUP value on all the
machines should be the same, for that to work. HomeGroup
is an alternative way, that's supposed to "make it easier"
somehow. I have a mix of machines (Win2K, WinXP, Linux) here,
so doing it HomeGroup style would get me nothing for the effort.

Paul

 

[...winston]

"Stewart" wrote in message Please excuse if this dealt with already but I cannot get a simple answer to
my problem.
I bought a new desktop one month ago running windows 7 with a 64 bit
processor.
I also have a laptop running windows 7 but with a 32 bit processor.
I have tried all I can think of to get the 2 to interconnect but no great
success. The desktop is wired to the router and the laptop uses wireless.
I can get the machine to recognise each other and to access the public
folders but not the personal ones. If I go to "Network>STEWART>Users" then
the only 2 available are "Default" and "Public"
obviously I can transfer any folders I want from Stewart to Public and
access them from there but that is just as tedious as copying them to a
flash memory stick or copying to my external hard drive. Note that I cannot
get IPv6 activated so do not want to use Homegroup but Workgroup.
Can anyone tell me how to make my name replace the "Default" or "Public"
user?
Thank you
1. Ensure both machines have the same windows logon usernames.
-ie. if pc1 is Tom and pc2 is Jerry...ensure pc1 has a Jerry profile and pc2 has a Tom profile
- the common profile on the other machine can be a Standard user
2. Ensure both pc's have the same Workgroup
3. Ensure at least one folder is shared on each machine
4. Ensure any folders that you wish to transfer data to on the destination machine is also shared

 

[Art Todesco]

Please excuse if this dealt with already but I cannot get a simple
answer to my problem.
I bought a new desktop one month ago running windows 7 with a 64 bit
processor.
I also have a laptop running windows 7 but with a 32 bit processor.
I have tried all I can think of to get the 2 to interconnect but no
great success. The desktop is wired to the router and the laptop uses
wireless.
I can get the machine to recognise each other and to access the public
folders but not the personal ones. If I go to "Network>STEWART>Users"
then the only 2 available are "Default" and "Public"
obviously I can transfer any folders I want from Stewart to Public and
access them from there but that is just as tedious as copying them to a
flash memory stick or copying to my external hard drive. Note that I
cannot get IPv6 activated so do not want to use Homegroup but Workgroup.
Can anyone tell me how to make my name replace the "Default" or "Public"
user?
Thank you

When I had 'similar' problems I pulled out many hairs for days and
couldn't find anything. Then I came upon an old thread, I think it was
here, that actually solved my problem. I then closed my thread where I
asked for help with the following post. I hope it helps you as much as
it did me.'

After trying many things, I came upon some advice in another thread.
Here's the few lines from 'apuzzler' that fixed the problem.
I spent weeks tearing my hair out over this problem. Our network has a
combination of both XP & Win 7 machines. For your XP machines to see
the Win 7 machines you will have to do the following:

On the Win 7 Machines right click on My Computer and then right click on
the Hard disks you want to share. You will see a box with several tabs.
The two you will need to mess with are Security & Sharing. In
Security you will have to click on the Edit button and add "Everyone"
and then make sure "Everyone" has Full Control, and all the boxes
checked in the box below. In Sharing choose Advanced Sharing, then
Permissions. The only group or names listed in that box should be
"Everyone" (Use the Remove button to rid of any other names or group in
that box and then make sure that Full Control, Change, and Read are all
checked. You will have to go back and forth between the Security and
Sharing a few times to get this straightened out because if it isn't
done in the correct order (and I still haven't figured that out yet) it
won't let you finish. I know that at least once during the process you
will have to go back to the Security tab and remove that line "deny" for
everyone--for some reason that always comes up during this sharing
process and has to be removed (but there will be a line that for
Everyone that allows, so leave it.)

I don't know why you set sharing and then you have to set it again in
another place in a different way. I'm sure someone will say, "oh ya,
that." Actually, I've been communicating with my son on this, and when
I told him, he said something similar, like 'oh, ya, I forgot that one.'
MS keeps redesigning the wheel and adding layers upon layers to do the
same thing.

 

[Wolf K]

On 22/10/2012 8:44 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
[...]

I don't know why you set sharing and then you have to set it again in
another place in a different way. I'm sure someone will say, "oh ya,
that." Actually, I've been communicating with my son on this, and when
I told him, he said something similar, like 'oh, ya, I forgot that one.'
MS keeps redesigning the wheel and adding layers upon layers to do the
same thing.

This is not an "added layer to do the same thing". It's about
controlling access to files, folders, and the operating system.

Permissions apply to multiple users on one machine. It's a way of
ensuring that people can't mess with each other's data or the OS.

By Sharing, you in effect add external users, so you have to set their
Permissions, too. You might not want an external user to have full
access to all your files and folders.

I would _not_ give "Everyone" full control over everything on my machine.

 

[Stewart]

thanks both, I shall try your ideas when I get back from my daughter's next
week.



"Wolf K" wrote in message
On 22/10/2012 8:44 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
[...]

I don't know why you set sharing and then you have to set it again in
another place in a different way. I'm sure someone will say, "oh ya,
that." Actually, I've been communicating with my son on this, and when
I told him, he said something similar, like 'oh, ya, I forgot that one.'
MS keeps redesigning the wheel and adding layers upon layers to do the
same thing.

This is not an "added layer to do the same thing". It's about
controlling access to files, folders, and the operating system.

Permissions apply to multiple users on one machine. It's a way of
ensuring that people can't mess with each other's data or the OS.

By Sharing, you in effect add external users, so you have to set their
Permissions, too. You might not want an external user to have full
access to all your files and folders.

I would _not_ give "Everyone" full control over everything on my machine.