Microsoft Security Essentials / Windows Updates Question

[Chet]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However, something keeps turning
it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates Automatticaly"
for any reason and or know of a fix for this?


BTW, I have seen this happen on several computers now.

Thanks

 

[choro]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However, something keeps turning
it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates Automatticaly"
for any reason and or know of a fix for this?

Yes, switch over to Linux!
-- choro --

 

[Paul]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However, something keeps turning
it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates Automatticaly"
for any reason and or know of a fix for this?


BTW, I have seen this happen on several computers now.

Thanks

If you can't find another solution, go to Services and disable Automatic Update service ?

http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/windowsxp/articles/275/1/Disable-Automatic-Updates

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/wuauserv.htm

You could try further research on wuauserv .

Disabling that service, is apparently something malware does, so that
suggests Microsoft is relying on that for their malware tools (virus updates).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/959894

Does MSSE have a manual update in the menu ? You'd need some
way for it to get updates on a regular basis.

*******

OK, this is pretty clever.

http://www.windowsbbs.com/general-security/89931-ms-security-essentials-my-findings.html

"I have a cmd file I made that:
1. starts Automatic Update service.
2. starts MS Antimalware service.
3. updates MSE.
4. stops those two services."

This is a snippet of code. It saves a step and does the same thing.

net start wuauserv
"%ProgramFiles%\Microsoft Security Essentials\MpCmdRun.exe" -SignatureUpdate
net stop wuauserv

Maybe you can cook something up with that.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Frederick J. Barnett]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However, something keeps turning
it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates Automatticaly"
for any reason and or know of a fix for this?

I use MSE and have Windows auto update turned off as well.
It's never turned mine back on.



Frederick J. Barnett
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However,
something keeps turning it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone
else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates
Automatticaly" for any reason and or know of a fix for this?

No. Windows Update has four options, and whichever one I pick, sticks. I
normally have it set to the third option:

1) Install updates automatically (recommended)
2) Download updates but let me choose whether to install them
3) Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them
4) Never check for updates (not recommended)

 

[VanguardLH]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However,
something keeps turning it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone
else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates
Automatticaly" for any reason and or know of a fix for this?

MSSE isn't doing that. Perhaps you have security software that protects
the state of settings. You change the settings and it changes them
back. Got anything other than MSSE installed on your host for security
or privacy software?

While MSSE uses the Automatic Updates service to get its updates, it
doesn't alter the Windows Update option. Even if you configure Windows
Updates to never check for updates (and obviously then also not to
download or install them), disabling the AU service will prevent MSSE
from getting its updates.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/959894

BTW, I have seen this happen on several computers now.

I suspect what is common amongst these multiple computers is a single
user. You've done something on each computer and why the symptom has
shown up on each computer. It moves as you move.

 

[VanguardLH]

Yes, switch over to Linux!

Oooh, goochie goochie goo, whadda cute widdle baby you are. Hee hee hee
hee hee, you looks so funny banging on the keyboard to imitate Daddie.

choro on the keyboard:

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

choro wrote:

Oooh, goochie goochie goo, whadda cute widdle baby you are. Hee hee hee
hee hee, you looks so funny banging on the keyboard to imitate Daddie.

choro on the keyboard:

Judging by her frustration, she must have been interfacing with a Linux
distro.

In about a year, she'll probably be texting her toddler friends, ya
think?

 

[Twayne]

In

Yes, switch over to Linux!
-- choro --

Oh, there's an intelligent moron! IQ must almost match his age.

 

[chet]

According to this, installing MSSE does turn Windows Update back on.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/anti-vir...-installer-zaps-automatic-updates-setting-804


Just for grins, I uninstalled MSSE, set Windows update to never, installed MSSE and Windows update was set back to automatic.


Must be happening to somebody other than me for the article to get written.

 

[Tester]

This applies to all security products. AVG does that; So does F-Secure
(which turns off Windows firewall and installs its own); Windows
Defender also does that.

One should always check the updates configurations settings after
installing any Microsoft updates or Applications. Microsoft would like
us to think that it knows best;

i have stopped all M$ updates because I don't think they are doing
anything special to my system. I choose to install MSSE and Windows
Defender updates and tat is all! Nothing else; Therefore, no M$
spywares on my system.

hth

 

[SC Tom]

This applies to all security products. AVG does that; So does F-Secure
(which turns off Windows firewall and installs its own); Windows
Defender also does that.

Zone Alarm doesn't.

One should always check the updates configurations settings after
installing any Microsoft updates or Applications. Microsoft would like
us to think that it knows best;

i have stopped all M$ updates because I don't think they are doing
anything special to my system. I choose to install MSSE and Windows
Defender updates and tat is all! Nothing else; Therefore, no M$
spywares on my system.

Protect yourself for sure. http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

 

[Tester]

Zone Alarm doesn't.

Is it any good? Why is it free? MSSE is free because M$ wants to
protect its reputation (because windows is defective) but why should any
third party vendor give out free stuff? There is no evidence that
people buy their professional/paid up versions.

Protect yourself for sure. http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

I start by deflecting Microsoft Spywares. The rest can take care of
themselves!

 

[Nil]

According to this, installing MSSE does turn Windows Update back
on.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/anti-virus/warning-microsoft-security-es
sentials-installer-zaps-automatic-updates-setting-804

Just for grins, I uninstalled MSSE, set Windows update to never,
installed MSSE and Windows update was set back to automatic.

Must be happening to somebody other than me for the article to get
written.

It does not happen to me.

 

[choro]

Judging by her frustration, she must have been interfacing with a Linux
distro.

In about a year, she'll probably be texting her toddler friends, ya think?

Judging by the reactions I got, I must have hit a raw nerve!
-- choro --

 

[Adrian C]

I alway set automatic updates to "Never check for updates." However, something keeps turning
it back on and I suspect it is MSSE. Anyone else seen automatic updates revert back to "Install Updates Automatticaly"
for any reason and or know of a fix for this?

If online, I do hope you do actually download and install updates at
least in a timely fashion. If not, then its pointless also using an
antivirus product, so you might also want to be rid of that?

I'm trying to teach you to suck eggs but If that is your idea, beware.
You *will* lose data, spread virues and risk identity theft - and most
of that will be down to having an unpatched machine on the net. Keep
financial data well away from this machine.

FWIW I've been running Secunia 'Personal Software Inspector' on this
Windows 7 machine for a little while. Interesting application, which
aims to patch Windows applications and everything else. It's free.

http://secunia.com/

 

[SC Tom]

Is it any good? Why is it free? MSSE is free because M$ wants to
protect its reputation (because windows is defective) but why should any
third party vendor give out free stuff? There is no evidence that
people buy their professional/paid up versions.

Works well for me. The firewall is free, but the suites cost. There is
plenty of eveidence that users buy it- they're still in business after more
than a decade. A non-open source program doesn't stay around if no one buys
it enough for the company to make a profit. Simple capitalism

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

If online, I do hope you do actually download and install updates at
least in a timely fashion. If not, then its pointless also using an
antivirus product, so you might also want to be rid of that?

I'm trying to teach you to suck eggs but If that is your idea,
beware. You *will* lose data, spread virues and risk identity theft -
and most of that will be down to having an unpatched machine on the
net. Keep financial data well away from this machine.

FWIW I've been running Secunia 'Personal Software Inspector' on this
Windows 7 machine for a little while. Interesting application, which
aims to patch Windows applications and everything else. It's free.

http://secunia.com/

Cool. The online scan picked up two programs that needed patching, so I
installed the local version. Everything patched, but one end-of-life
program, an antique version (5) of Paint Shop Pro. Very handy way to
stay current.

 

[ray]

Judging by the reactions I got, I must have hit a raw nerve! -- choro --

Yes. You are the only one who offered a definite solution, instead of
"try this" or "no, MSE is not to blame - try this", etc.

 

[Bob I]

Yes. You are the only one who offered a definite solution, instead of
"try this" or "no, MSE is not to blame - try this", etc.

Swapping one problem for a complete new set of problems is never a solution.