IE 9

B

Boscoe

The new Beta release of IE9 is here, and IÂ’'ve been using it for a few
weeks with no problems. Seems to be reasonably stable and trouble-free
but it won't run on XP, but you may get it to run under Vista. ItÂ’s a
lot cleaner with a major cull of menus and toolbars, leaving more space
for web pages. Many of the shiny new features are under the bonnet and
concerned with future developments...

<http://www.beautyoftheweb.com/#/productguide/top-features>
 
K

Ken Blake

The new Beta release of IE9 is here, and I?'ve been using it for a few
weeks with no problems. Seems to be reasonably stable and trouble-free
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OK, but here's my standard message re beta software:

All that exists of IE9 is a beta test version of it. The reason it's a
beta test version instead of a released version is that it still has
bugs in it, and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform
them of other bugs as they are found,

In my view, unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and
enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to
Microsoft, installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
 
C

Charles Tomaras

Ken Blake said:
OK, but here's my standard message re beta software:

All that exists of IE9 is a beta test version of it. The reason it's a
beta test version instead of a released version is that it still has
bugs in it, and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform
them of other bugs as they are found,

In my view, unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and
enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to
Microsoft, installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
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Well...the kind of bugs that might be found in a beta of this sort are not
generally the critical types of bugs. This software has had more people
hours of beta testing already than most released applications ever get. This
is all about web site compatibility, UI and performance tweaking. How many
millions of downloads now and how many "critical" issues? This is pretty
safe stuff.
 
K

Ken Blake

Well...the kind of bugs that might be found in a beta of this sort are not
generally the critical types of bugs. This software has had more people
hours of beta testing already than most released applications ever get. This
is all about web site compatibility, UI and performance tweaking. How many
millions of downloads now and how many "critical" issues? This is pretty
safe stuff.
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Might it be somewhat safer than other types of beta software? Yes,
probably. Does that means it's entirely safe? No, it doesn't.

Your choice. I'll continue to recommend against it, as I recommend
against all beta software, "unless you have a spare computer to
install it on, and enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting
of bugs to Microsoft."
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Ken said:
OK, but here's my standard message re beta software:

All that exists of IE9 is a beta test version of it. The reason it's
a beta test version instead of a released version is that it still
has bugs in it, and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to
inform them of other bugs as they are found,

In my view, unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and
enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to
Microsoft, installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.


Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
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My take on beta software is that I don't want to work for a multibillion
dollar corporation for free.
 
A

Art [artfudd] Folden

While I agree in general with your advice, with MS’s new trend of releasing betas to the public
instead of undergoing extensive private beta testing (any that is done is limited to a relative few
compared to the more extensive techbeta testing done previously), seems to result in publicly
released betas that have far fewer bugs than what in the past was released to private beta testers.
In other words, I would not hesitate to put this kind of beta on a non-test machine, but would
advise against putting it (or any beta) on a production-critical machine. So IMO your warnings do
not fully apply with regard to the public betas like it did with the private betas that received
much earlier beta versions. Just my thoughts and opinion..


Art [artfudd] Folden
I'm a PC and Windows 7 sux less!
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Well...the kind of bugs that might be found in a beta of this sort are not
generally the critical types of bugs. This software has had more people
hours of beta testing already than most released applications ever get. This
is all about web site compatibility, UI and performance tweaking. How many
millions of downloads now and how many "critical" issues? This is pretty
safe stuff.
Click to expand...

Might it be somewhat safer than other types of beta software? Yes,
probably. Does that means it's entirely safe? No, it doesn't.

Your choice. I'll continue to recommend against it, as I recommend
against all beta software, "unless you have a spare computer to
install it on, and enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting
of bugs to Microsoft."
 
B

Boscoe

OK, but here's my standard message re beta software:

All that exists of IE9 is a beta test version of it. The reason it's a
beta test version instead of a released version is that it still has
bugs in it, and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform
them of other bugs as they are found,

In my view, unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and
enjoy doing beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to
Microsoft, installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
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You use Beta on an at-your-own-risk basis, don't you? Of course you
won't put it on your work computer. But, several million guinea pigs
have given it a thorough road test to uncover any glitches.

Windows 7 Beta version was one of the most popular downloads of all time.
 
M

mark

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My take on beta software is that I don't want to work for a multibillion
dollar corporation for free.
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Very commendable....
another view, of course, for the same situation, is that this software
(generally) comes free and one could view ironing out (this) free software
as a benefit to the millions of other future users...??


mark
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

mark said:
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Very commendable.... another view, of course, for the same situation,
is that this software (generally) comes free and one could view
ironing out (this) free software as a benefit to the millions of
other future users...??
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Free? Where did you get your copy of Windows 7 or Vista? I had to pay
for mine. IE 9 is only available to Vista and Windows 7 owners. It may be
included, but it is not free.
 
J

Jeff Layman

Free? Where did you get your copy of Windows 7 or Vista? I had to pay
for mine. IE 9 is only available to Vista and Windows 7 owners. It may be
included, but it is not free.
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That's an interesting observation. But does that make all "freeware"
which doesn't run on a free OS misnamed? Is anything which will only
run on Windows or a Mac really free?
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Jeff said:
That's an interesting observation. But does that make all "freeware"
which doesn't run on a free OS misnamed? Is anything which will
only run on Windows or a Mac really free?
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IE is not a third party add on. It is an integral part of the OS.

I don't really want to get into a philosophical debate on what is or is not
"freeware." I just stated my attitude towards beta testing MS software.
You have my permission to disagree and install anything you want.
 
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mark

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IE is not a third party add on. It is an integral part of the OS.
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erm...certainly not in Europe it isn't... (ok, third party it isn't...but
add on it is)
Indeed, MS have had to allow the operating system to be free of IE by way of
choosing a/any number of browsers.
You can use MS windows but you DON'T have to use IE..
I don't really want to get into a philosophical debate on what is or is
not
"freeware." I just stated my attitude towards beta testing MS software.
You have my permission to disagree and install anything you want.
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...but ignored the fact that IE IS free to download and use..


mark
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

mark said:
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erm...certainly not in Europe it isn't... (ok, third party it
isn't...but add on it is) Indeed, MS have had to allow the operating
system to be free of IE by way of choosing a/any number of browsers.
You can use MS windows but you DON'T have to use IE..


..but ignored the fact that IE IS free to download and use..
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Whether IE is free or not has nothing to do with my original statement:
"My take on beta software is that I don't want to work for a
multibillion dollar corporation for free." The last I heard, MS is not a
nonprofit corporation.
 
B

Boscoe

Yeah, but the other half will last him and twenty of his descendants for
a long, long time. He gave it out of guilt, just like Gates and Buffet
did. When they give ALL of their fortune to charity and start living out
on the street, you'll have something. And Paul Allen won't let go of it
until after he dies which gives him plenty of time to change his mind.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses. Why should rich people bother, anyway, with
this attitude? Anyway, he has terminal cancer.

All you've got to offer is nothing.
 
B

Boscoe

Not one excuse there. I posted factoids, something you seem to be
unfamiliar with.


My attitude is spot on and I don't need any money.


Goes to show money isn't everything, doesn't it?


You don't have a clue as to what I have or what I offer.
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Unfortunately, I'm sure many on here know exactly what you've got to offer.
 
K

KCB

?
Alias said:
Yeah, but the other half will last him and twenty of his descendants for a
long, long time. He gave it out of guilt, just like Gates and Buffet did.
When they give ALL of their fortune to charity and start living out on the
street, you'll have something. And Paul Allen won't let go of it until
after he dies which gives him plenty of time to change his mind.
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So you're saying he doesn't deserve anything, and should give it all away?
Why should he have to do that, regardless of his health issues? Have you
given everything away and move out into the street?
 
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