IE 9 - not working

H

Hunibal

I am using Windows 7 Home and IE 9
Yesterday got the monthly update.
After that IE is not working.
Dose not get on the internet.
I did a system restore - without any luck.

Could anyone help me?

Cheers _ Hunibal _
 
N

Nil

I am using Windows 7 Home and IE 9
Yesterday got the monthly update.
After that IE is not working.
Dose not get on the internet.
I did a system restore - without any luck.

Could anyone help me?
Not without more information. "Not working" is an almost completely
meaningless description.

What exactly happens when you try to use it. Be as detailed as
possible. Every error message is important.
 
H

Hunibal

"Nil" wrote in message
I am using Windows 7 Home and IE 9
Yesterday got the monthly update.
After that IE is not working.
Dose not get on the internet.
I did a system restore - without any luck.

Could anyone help me?
Not without more information. "Not working" is an almost completely
meaningless description.

What exactly happens when you try to use it. Be as detailed as
possible. Every error message is important.


The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any other
web address - not responding.
Dose not have internet access. I can't describe it any better.
The email is working fine.

Cheers _ Hunibal _
 
P

Paul

Hunibal said:
"Nil" wrote in message


Not without more information. "Not working" is an almost completely
meaningless description.

What exactly happens when you try to use it. Be as detailed as
possible. Every error message is important.


The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any
other web address - not responding.
Dose not have internet access. I can't describe it any better.
The email is working fine.

Cheers _ Hunibal _
So in fact, it could be *all* networking which is broken, not just
Internet Explorer 9.

You posted this with Windows Live Mail, but you may have posted your
message from something other than the affected computer. So we can't
take your successful posting to USENET, as proof that steps 1 thru 3
below aren't necessary.

In the following, things in double-quotes are commands, and you
don't need to type in the outer double-quotes.

1) In the start thing, type "devmgmt.msc" as a command, to start
Device Manager. Verify there is an entry for a hardware
device functioning as your NIC or Wifi. And that there are
no yellow marks or errors. This is a check the hardware is detected,
and a valid driver is loaded. If Windows Update loaded a new driver,
it could have broken something.

2) In network control panels, look for the icon that corresponds to
your current network setup. Maybe the computer thinks "the cable
has fallen out". On some Windows OSes, there'd be an icon on the
bar at the bottom, to indicate a cable disconnected. Figure out
where the network icon is hiding, and check the status.

3) If Windows Update installed a driver, you may be able to either
uninstall it, or roll back the driver in Device Manager (to the
older, working one). There should be a roll back button, when you
do Properties on the NIC or Wifi entry.

4) If you have some idea that, in fact, the hardware and driver end
are fine, next go to start and type in "cmd.exe" to open a Command Prompt
window. I usually right-click on cmd.exe before starting it, and
select Run as Administrator. If probably isn't necessary for the
following commands, but you may have other things you want to
do in the Command window.

4a) Try "ipconfig" as a command. It should show the current IP address
being used by the interface. And if you have more than one interface,
it may show in the list. If any of the values don't make sense,
such as an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range, then you're not
connecting to the DHCP server on your home router or your ISP's
end. For example, my home LAN is in the 192.168 range (private,
non-routable), and to me, a 169.254 number would stick out like
a sore thumb.

I can also log into my router, via using a web browser. The router
is at a fixed address. We'll pretend that address is 192.168.100.1.
I'd use some web browser, do "http://192.168.100.1" and try and
reach the router, then check the health page to see what addresses
are being used by the router itself. Maybe your ISP is down.

4b) Try "nslookup www.sun.com". That will query the DNS server. When
your computer gets a dynamic address via DHCP, the DHCP server will
also tell your computer to "forward any queries to this particular
DNS server". Using the nslookup command, will query the DNS servers,
one at a time, and ask for a translation of an address. Now, you're
not getting this far, because IE says you're not getting a response
at all. So I doubt this will work for you. But it's another of the
diagnostic steps.

nslookup www.sun.com
...

Address: 137.254.16.113

4c) Not all computers on the Internet, respond to a "ping" or "traceroute"
request. On servers, the admin can turn off the ICMP subset of protocol.
That kills ping and fragmentation detection type functions. However, if
you know a particular computer supports ping, you can attempt to "bounce"
packets off a foreign node. Since I just checked, and the Sun Microsystems
main web server supports ping, we can bounce stuff off it.

ping www.sun.com
ping 137.254.16.113

The two commands are equivalent, and the difference between them, is the
first format will do a DNS query first, and get the numeric translation,
before the actual ping is issued. The second form avoids having to get the
DNS working (if you know the number already). Many times, when working with
crippled networks in the past, I've survived on a text file with famous
IP addresses recorded in it. So if your networks have a habit of broken
DNS, a text file with your own recorded DNS values, can help you to do a
few things.

Anyway, those are some basic ideas, without the necessary level of detail
to do all of them. Even if you don't do them all, it might give you a few
ideas to check out.

Some OSes have a "network diagnostic" hiding in them. When you're in trouble,
you go to the "help" and try searching for "network diagnostic" and see what
whizzy code they provide for the job. Most companies don't do a very good
job of writing these, but it's still worth a test. What the test will do,
is some of the steps above, then the code will try to interpret the results
and tell you what's busted. Again, the interpretation is the hard part,
and code like that, isn't exactly "Siri" quality :) If the diagnostic
reported something you couldn't understand, I would not be surprised by
such a design. Writing good diagnostics is hard.

Paul
 
W

...winston

Hi Paul,
The op did state his email was working.
But it is odd that a System restore (if pre-IE9 update) continued to
yield an IE problem especially with mail functional and the requisite
networking handshaking to the email account server and back.


--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Paul" wrote in message
"Nil" wrote in message


Not without more information. "Not working" is an almost completely
meaningless description.

What exactly happens when you try to use it. Be as detailed as
possible. Every error message is important.


The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any other
web address - not responding.
Dose not have internet access. I can't describe it any better.
The email is working fine.

Cheers _ Hunibal _
So in fact, it could be *all* networking which is broken, not just
Internet Explorer 9.

You posted this with Windows Live Mail, but you may have posted your
message from something other than the affected computer. So we can't
take your successful posting to USENET, as proof that steps 1 thru 3
below aren't necessary.

In the following, things in double-quotes are commands, and you
don't need to type in the outer double-quotes.

1) In the start thing, type "devmgmt.msc" as a command, to start
Device Manager. Verify there is an entry for a hardware
device functioning as your NIC or Wifi. And that there are
no yellow marks or errors. This is a check the hardware is detected,
and a valid driver is loaded. If Windows Update loaded a new driver,
it could have broken something.

2) In network control panels, look for the icon that corresponds to
your current network setup. Maybe the computer thinks "the cable
has fallen out". On some Windows OSes, there'd be an icon on the
bar at the bottom, to indicate a cable disconnected. Figure out
where the network icon is hiding, and check the status.

3) If Windows Update installed a driver, you may be able to either
uninstall it, or roll back the driver in Device Manager (to the
older, working one). There should be a roll back button, when you
do Properties on the NIC or Wifi entry.

4) If you have some idea that, in fact, the hardware and driver end
are fine, next go to start and type in "cmd.exe" to open a Command
Prompt
window. I usually right-click on cmd.exe before starting it, and
select Run as Administrator. If probably isn't necessary for the
following commands, but you may have other things you want to
do in the Command window.

4a) Try "ipconfig" as a command. It should show the current IP address
being used by the interface. And if you have more than one interface,
it may show in the list. If any of the values don't make sense,
such as an IP address in the 169.254.x.x range, then you're not
connecting to the DHCP server on your home router or your ISP's
end. For example, my home LAN is in the 192.168 range (private,
non-routable), and to me, a 169.254 number would stick out like
a sore thumb.

I can also log into my router, via using a web browser. The router
is at a fixed address. We'll pretend that address is 192.168.100.1.
I'd use some web browser, do "http://192.168.100.1" and try and
reach the router, then check the health page to see what addresses
are being used by the router itself. Maybe your ISP is down.

4b) Try "nslookup www.sun.com". That will query the DNS server. When
your computer gets a dynamic address via DHCP, the DHCP server will
also tell your computer to "forward any queries to this particular
DNS server". Using the nslookup command, will query the DNS servers,
one at a time, and ask for a translation of an address. Now, you're
not getting this far, because IE says you're not getting a response
at all. So I doubt this will work for you. But it's another of the
diagnostic steps.

nslookup www.sun.com
...

Address: 137.254.16.113

4c) Not all computers on the Internet, respond to a "ping" or "traceroute"
request. On servers, the admin can turn off the ICMP subset of
protocol.
That kills ping and fragmentation detection type functions. However, if
you know a particular computer supports ping, you can attempt to
"bounce"
packets off a foreign node. Since I just checked, and the Sun
Microsystems
main web server supports ping, we can bounce stuff off it.

ping www.sun.com
ping 137.254.16.113

The two commands are equivalent, and the difference between them, is
the
first format will do a DNS query first, and get the numeric
translation,
before the actual ping is issued. The second form avoids having to get
the
DNS working (if you know the number already). Many times, when working
with
crippled networks in the past, I've survived on a text file with famous
IP addresses recorded in it. So if your networks have a habit of broken
DNS, a text file with your own recorded DNS values, can help you to do
a
few things.

Anyway, those are some basic ideas, without the necessary level of detail
to do all of them. Even if you don't do them all, it might give you a few
ideas to check out.

Some OSes have a "network diagnostic" hiding in them. When you're in
trouble,
you go to the "help" and try searching for "network diagnostic" and see what
whizzy code they provide for the job. Most companies don't do a very good
job of writing these, but it's still worth a test. What the test will do,
is some of the steps above, then the code will try to interpret the results
and tell you what's busted. Again, the interpretation is the hard part,
and code like that, isn't exactly "Siri" quality :) If the diagnostic
reported something you couldn't understand, I would not be surprised by
such a design. Writing good diagnostics is hard.

Paul
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Hunibal said:
"Nil" wrote in message



Not without more information. "Not working" is an almost completely
meaningless description.

What exactly happens when you try to use it. Be as detailed as
possible. Every error message is important.


The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any
other web address - not responding. Dose not have internet access. I
can't describe it any better. The email is working fine.
Here is a way to test the IE kernel and internet connection without
loading the IE GUI. Copy the text between the dotted lines into your
text editor and save it as "IETest.hta." Doubleclick on the saved script
to run it.

'================ IETest.hta ====================
<HTA:APPLICATION windowState="maximize">
<body style="margin:0;" scroll="no">
<iframe src="http://www.microsoft.com"
width="100%" height="100%" frameborder="0">
</iframe></body>
'============================================
 
V

VanguardLH

Note to Hunibal: Since you are using WLM v15 with does *not* properly
quote the cited content of the post to which you reply (there is no
attribution line or indentation of the quoted content), YOU will have to
add the attribution line(s) and indent the quoted content. At least
provide some delineation between the quoted content and your new content
in your reply.

The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any
other web address - not responding. Dose not have internet access. I
can't describe it any better. The email is working fine.
If e-mail is working (which uses POP/IMAP/SMTP/Deltasync) then your
Internet networking is working. As another test (using IMCP), run "ping
www.yahoo.com" to see if you can do the DNS lookup (to get the IP
address for the domain) and connect via Internet to the site to do the
ping. If the DNS lookup works (to your ISP's or other public DNS
server) and if Yahoo responds to the ping then your network is working.
You also posted here (presumably using the same host since you didn't
mention posting from elsewhere) and that uses NNTP.

E-mail, pinging, and newsgroups do not use HTTP to make their
connections. Since it is just your web browsing having problems (which
does use HTTP) then it could be something blocking HTTP connects.
Because you get a message that the site is not responding does mean that
the DNS lookup for those sites worked okay. Computers use numbers.
Humans like names. If the DNS lookup failed then you wouldn't get a
message that the site wasn't responding but instead that the lookup
failed.

So what security software do you have installed or enabled on your host?
Did you try disabling your anti-virus program? Your firewall?

Did you ever try to reset IE?
Have you tried running it in its no add-ons mode?
Have you yet rebooted after installing those updates?
Have you rebooted into Windows' Safe Mode (with networking) and retest?
 
H

Hunibal

Thanx to all for your input.
Got a copy of - Firefox - for some one on a memory stick.
Installed it and is running just fine.

With it downloaded IE9 - installed it BUT the same.
So the MS update really screwed it up for me.

can't even uninstall IE9 - so for now will stay with Firefox


--
Cheers _ Hunibal _



"VanguardLH" wrote in message
Note to Hunibal: Since you are using WLM v15 with does *not* properly
quote the cited content of the post to which you reply (there is no
attribution line or indentation of the quoted content), YOU will have to
add the attribution line(s) and indent the quoted content. At least
provide some delineation between the quoted content and your new content
in your reply.

The program just sits there with the error message: MNS.com or any
other web address - not responding. Dose not have internet access. I
can't describe it any better. The email is working fine.
If e-mail is working (which uses POP/IMAP/SMTP/Deltasync) then your
Internet networking is working. As another test (using IMCP), run "ping
www.yahoo.com" to see if you can do the DNS lookup (to get the IP
address for the domain) and connect via Internet to the site to do the
ping. If the DNS lookup works (to your ISP's or other public DNS
server) and if Yahoo responds to the ping then your network is working.
You also posted here (presumably using the same host since you didn't
mention posting from elsewhere) and that uses NNTP.

E-mail, pinging, and newsgroups do not use HTTP to make their
connections. Since it is just your web browsing having problems (which
does use HTTP) then it could be something blocking HTTP connects.
Because you get a message that the site is not responding does mean that
the DNS lookup for those sites worked okay. Computers use numbers.
Humans like names. If the DNS lookup failed then you wouldn't get a
message that the site wasn't responding but instead that the lookup
failed.

So what security software do you have installed or enabled on your host?
Did you try disabling your anti-virus program? Your firewall?

Did you ever try to reset IE?
Have you tried running it in its no add-ons mode?
Have you yet rebooted after installing those updates?
Have you rebooted into Windows' Safe Mode (with networking) and retest?


Cheers _ Hunibal _
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Hunibal said:
Thanx to all for your input.
Got a copy of - Firefox - for some one on a memory stick.
Installed it and is running just fine.

With it downloaded IE9 - installed it BUT the same. So the MS update
really screwed it up for me.

can't even uninstall IE9 - so for now will stay with Firefox
You can, just not the way you normally uninstall a program.
http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+uninstall+IE+9
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Here is a way to test the IE kernel and internet connection without
loading the IE GUI. Copy the text between the dotted lines into your
text editor and save it as "IETest.hta." Doubleclick on the saved script
to run it.

'================ IETest.hta ====================
<HTA:APPLICATION windowState="maximize">
<body style="margin:0;" scroll="no">
<iframe src="http://www.microsoft.com"
width="100%" height="100%" frameborder="0">
</iframe></body>
'============================================
Now that is cool. Thanks.

But you have shown me yet another area of my ignorance. Now I have to
add hta to my list of languages to learn. Oy weh.
 
A

Andy Burns

Gene said:
But you have shown me yet another area of my ignorance. Now I have to
add hta to my list of languages to learn. Oy weh.
I runs under mshta.exe, you can use any html/jscript*/css and COM
objects that WSH understands (except the WScript object) the main
difference is it runs without most of the security constraints of
running within IE.

* or vbscript if you must ... spit!
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Andy said:
I runs under mshta.exe, you can use any html/jscript*/css and COM
objects that WSH understands (except the WScript object) the main
difference is it runs without most of the security constraints of
running within IE.

* or vbscript if you must ... spit!
Oh, oh! Javascript snob alert! The only thing wrong with VBScript is
that it won't run on most non-IE browsers. If I were writing client side
scripts for web pages, I'd use Javascript, but since I write almost
exclusively scripts to be run locally on a Windows machine, why bother?
 
A

Andy Burns

Dave said:
Oh, oh! Javascript snob alert!
Yes, but with reasons ... the error and exception handling on vbscript
sucks, and though (like many) I started out with a very basic BASIC I
quickly moved to C and (later java/javalike) languages, so I *like*
brackets round the arguments of my function calls, squiggly brackets
rather than then/else/endif and semi-colons. Oh and underscores for
continuation lines? That's ugly.

There are one or two things I have to use vbscript for because jscript
is lacking, but in those cases I'd probably plump for C# when I can get
away with it ...
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Andy said:
Yes, but with reasons ... the error and exception handling on
vbscript sucks, and though (like many) I started out with a very
basic BASIC I quickly moved to C and (later java/javalike) languages,
so I *like* brackets round the arguments of my function calls,
squiggly brackets rather than then/else/endif and semi-colons. Oh
and underscores for continuation lines? That's ugly.

There are one or two things I have to use vbscript for because
jscript is lacking, but in those cases I'd probably plump for C# when
I can get away with it ...
If you are running scripts on Windows, Jscript and VBScript are
pretty much interchangeable. The only difference is the syntax.

I never did any C or other compiled languages. I went from Assembler
to scripts, including Perl, PHP, and Javascript as well as VBScript. I
use whatever works, without prejudice. Well, not quite. I really hate Perl.
 
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u r not alone

this just happend to me (well 4 times actually as the (other) bloody laptop keeps loading updates avery time I leave it alone (yes I turn them off after doing a system restore).

Symptoms:
IE9 responds with "internet Explorer cannot display web page" for every page (inc microsoft online help) except for me home page.

Also I loose the ability to talk to my networked printers. And it cannot "find them" to reinstall - even when told the ip address.

Email (Outlook 2020) works fine though ???

Do a system restor to thursday and every thing seems to work fine though????

So far I have lost about 4 hours of productivity to this due to having to do system restores every time I want to print or access web sites I'd rather not go to on the work machine ( because they are related to my second job ).
 

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