How can I uninstall Widows Defender?

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Bob Smith

Hello I am trying to uninstall Windows defender so that my third party
anti-virus/anti-software has complete control.
SiSoftware Sandra Home Professional shows this:

SiSoftware Sandra Home Professional >Operating System>Default Key
Applications>Anti-Spyware : Windows Defender. I want ZoneAlarm
Extreme Security to have control over anti-spyware. I have already
tried disabling it and in services>windows defender
properties>recovery>first failure, second failure & subsequent failure
all "take no action". but Sandra still reports windows defender as the
main app for anti-spyware. Can windows defender be uninstalled? Is
there a way so that ZoneAlarm Extreme Security has FULL control over
Anti-Spyware and NOT windows defender? TIA!
 
B

Bob Smith

Hello I am trying to uninstall Windows defender so that my third party
anti-virus/anti-software has complete control.
SiSoftware Sandra Home Professional shows this:

SiSoftware Sandra Home Professional >Operating System>Default Key
Applications>Anti-Spyware : Windows Defender. I want ZoneAlarm
Extreme Security to have control over anti-spyware. I have already
tried disabling it and in services>windows defender
properties>recovery>first failure, second failure & subsequent failure
all "take no action". but Sandra still reports windows defender as the
main app for anti-spyware. Can windows defender be uninstalled? Is
there a way so that ZoneAlarm Extreme Security has FULL control over
Anti-Spyware and NOT windows defender? TIA!
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I forgot to mention Im running Windows 7 Pro
 
F

FooAtari

Doe's it hurt to run Defender and another such as ESET NOD32 Antivirus
at the same time ?
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Not really, Defender isn't Anti-virus, more like Anti Spyware so
shouldn't conflict with something like NOD32.
 
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Flint

Not really, Defender isn't Anti-virus, more like Anti Spyware so
shouldn't conflict with something like NOD32.
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In terms of conflicts on simultaneous detection, this may be correct,
however, I would recommend scheduling Windows Defender to update and
do scans during hours offset from the same period of time an actual
anti-virus is doing the same. Otherwise, your HD will do a lot of
unnecessary thrashing. If running some sort of defragger, this should
be scheduled during offset hours from other scheduled utilities as well.
 
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Rebecca

Flint said:
In terms of conflicts on simultaneous detection, this may be correct,
however, I would recommend scheduling Windows Defender to update and do
scans during hours offset from the same period of time an actual
anti-virus is doing the same. Otherwise, your HD will do a lot of
unnecessary thrashing. If running some sort of defragger, this should be
scheduled during offset hours from other scheduled utilities as well.
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NOD32 doesn't schedule scans, it operates real-time all the time. You can do
a manual scan it you feel you want to.

If you have ESET's "Smart Security" installed, it includes anti-SPAM & anti
Malware. There are no conflicts with Windows Defender.
 
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D@LS

NOD32 doesn't schedule scans, it operates real-time all the time. You can do
a manual scan it you feel you want to.
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Mine is set to scan every 120 minutes.
 
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Char Jackson

Mine is set to scan every 120 minutes.
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Since you obviously don't trust its realtime protection, why then do
you trust its on-demand protection? After all, it uses the same engine
for both, doesn't it?
 
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D@LS

Since you obviously don't trust its realtime protection, why then do
you trust its on-demand protection?
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It only shows in Quarantine after on-demand.
 
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Char Jackson

It only shows in Quarantine after on-demand.
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Back when I used NOD32 v4, it would always offer to quarantine
whatever it found, regardless of whether it was during a real-time
scan or an on-demand scan. I guess that must have changed.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Back when I used NOD32 v4, it would always offer to quarantine
whatever it found, regardless of whether it was during a real-time
scan or an on-demand scan. I guess that must have changed.
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My thought is that it doesn't see it on the real-time scan, which I have
taken to mean an on-access scan.

Inn other words, if it isn't accessed, it won't be seen, and hence won't
be quarantined. This is for some value of "it", since D@LS hasn't,
AFAICT, named the file in question.
 
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Char Jackson

My thought is that it doesn't see it on the real-time scan, which I have
taken to mean an on-access scan.

Inn other words, if it isn't accessed, it won't be seen, and hence won't
be quarantined. This is for some value of "it", since D@LS hasn't,
AFAICT, named the file in question.
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True, an infected file that doesn't get accessed won't get
quarantined, but there's the school of thought that says an infected
file that doesn't get accessed isn't really a threat. Once it does get
accessed, if it ever does, the AV should catch it and offer to
quarantine it.

Following that school of thought, there's very little reason to do
frequent full scans of a system since the resident AV should have
caught the file when it was being written to disk and should have a
second opportunity to catch it if it's later accessed for
read/execution. For that reason, I try to remember to do a full system
scan about once or twice a year, just because I'm curious. That's a
far cry from doing a full scan every 120 minutes, as per the OP.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

True, an infected file that doesn't get accessed won't get
quarantined, but there's the school of thought that says an infected
file that doesn't get accessed isn't really a threat. Once it does get
accessed, if it ever does, the AV should catch it and offer to
quarantine it.

Following that school of thought, there's very little reason to do
frequent full scans of a system since the resident AV should have
caught the file when it was being written to disk and should have a
second opportunity to catch it if it's later accessed for
read/execution. For that reason, I try to remember to do a full system
scan about once or twice a year, just because I'm curious. That's a
far cry from doing a full scan every 120 minutes, as per the OP.
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I scan much more often[1] than you do, indicating, apparently, that I
have a much more refined sense of responsibility.

The mentioned scan every 120 minutes definitely blew me away - the word
that popped unbidden into my head was "overkill".

[1] Four or five times a year :)
 
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D@LS

True, an infected file that doesn't get accessed won't get
quarantined, but there's the school of thought that says an infected
file that doesn't get accessed isn't really a threat. Once it does get
accessed, if it ever does, the AV should catch it and offer to
quarantine it.

Following that school of thought, there's very little reason to do
frequent full scans of a system since the resident AV should have
caught the file when it was being written to disk and should have a
second opportunity to catch it if it's later accessed for
read/execution. For that reason, I try to remember to do a full system
scan about once or twice a year, just because I'm curious. That's a
far cry from doing a full scan every 120 minutes, as per the OP.
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If it's a BUG kill it.
Last files that got caught in a scan now were win32........
And some trojan.
When I bought this Anti ware that's what I thought it would do.
KILL IT if it enters my machine. I don't think that's unreasonable.
 
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Char Jackson

If it's a BUG kill it.
Last files that got caught in a scan now were win32........
And some trojan.
When I bought this Anti ware that's what I thought it would do.
KILL IT if it enters my machine. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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Instead of 120 minutes, why not just schedule it so that the next full
scan starts exactly as the last full scan ends? Because it's severe
overkill, that's why. You've got your computer's resources tied up in
chasing ghosts when it could be doing something productive.

By the way, what does Asus have to do with your AV scan? I thought you
were going to put that into a signature line?
 
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D@LS

Instead of 120 minutes, why not just schedule it so that the next full
scan starts exactly as the last full scan ends? Because it's severe
overkill, that's why. You've got your computer's resources tied up in
chasing ghosts when it could be doing something productive.

By the way, what does Asus have to do with your AV scan? I thought you
were going to put that into a signature line?
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I'm an old retired Ham Radio Operator and this is computer is only a
toy.
Al tho I do like it to work!
Al tho I will pull my sig line I will still bad mouth them until I'm
out of forever's.
 
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Char Jackson

Al tho I will pull my sig line I will still bad mouth them until I'm
out of forever's.
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That's cool, but as far as I followed that part of your thread, I
couldn't see that Asus support did anything wrong. The problem you
were (and maybe still are?) having doesn't look like it had anything
to do with them. Still, it's your right to bad mouth whoever and
whatever you want.
 
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Rebecca

Char Jackson said:
That's cool, but as far as I followed that part of your thread, I
couldn't see that Asus support did anything wrong. The problem you
were (and maybe still are?) having doesn't look like it had anything
to do with them. Still, it's your right to bad mouth whoever and
whatever you want.
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They didn't say, "pretty please."
 
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