Google can run but it can't hide!!!

[Steel]

When I purchased my Droid at a Verizon store some months ago, the sales
guy said "it's running Linux so you don't have to worry about malware,
viruses, Trojans and whatnot", because it's running Linux.

I just looked at him. I didn't say anything, because I knew better.

<http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ndroid-trojan-found-grafted-to-gaming-apps-/1>

<copied>

Geimini shares much in common with drive-by download infections spread
on popular websites across the Internet. These Trojans are designed to
infect the PC web browser of any and all visitors to the tainted
websites. Once Geimini downloads to your Android phone, the attacker
essentially has a mechanism in place to do anything he wants.

<end copy>

As soon as Lookout was released for Android, I installed it immediately
to protect the phone as much as possible.

<http://www.pcworld.com/article/205165/another_sms_trojan_appears_on_android_phones.html>

<copied>

Kaspersky Labs first announced its detection of what appeared to be the
first of several SMS Trojans on Google’s Android operating system on
August 9th. The application released in Russian markets outside of
Google’s Android Market, was disguised as a media player. Once
installed, the code would send 3 premium SMS messages, effectively
transferring the US equivalent of ~$18 from the user to the recipient
company.

<end copy>


Yeah, they better get these dual core smartphones out there, because
like Ricky Ricardo would say, "Lucy you got some scanning to do".

 

[SC Tom]

When I purchased my Droid at a Verizon store some months ago, the sales
guy said "it's running Linux so you don't have to worry about malware,
viruses, Trojans and whatnot", because it's running Linux.

I just looked at him. I didn't say anything, because I knew better.

<http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ndroid-trojan-found-grafted-to-gaming-apps-/1>

<copied>

Geimini shares much in common with drive-by download infections spread on
popular websites across the Internet. These Trojans are designed to infect
the PC web browser of any and all visitors to the tainted websites. Once
Geimini downloads to your Android phone, the attacker essentially has a
mechanism in place to do anything he wants.

<end copy>

As soon as Lookout was released for Android, I installed it immediately to
protect the phone as much as possible.

<http://www.pcworld.com/article/205165/another_sms_trojan_appears_on_android_phones.html>

<copied>

Kaspersky Labs first announced its detection of what appeared to be the
first of several SMS Trojans on Google’s Android operating system on
August 9th. The application released in Russian markets outside of Google’s
Android Market, was disguised as a media player. Once installed, the code
would send 3 premium SMS messages, effectively transferring the US
equivalent of ~$18 from the user to the recipient company.

<end copy>


Yeah, they better get these dual core smartphones out there, because like
Ricky Ricardo would say, "Lucy you got some scanning to do".

And that's the way to write a Trojan. Not too many average Droid users with
all the bells and whistles installed would notice an extra $18 charge. Don't
go for the big bucks; just have a paltry amount transferred into your
account by thousands of users and POOF!, you're rich! Reminds me of the
scheme programmers used to divert fractions of a penny into their accounts.
http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/salami.asp

SC Tom

 

[Big Steel]

<http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/12/na
sty-android-trojan-found-grafted-to-gaming-apps-/1> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/205165/another_sms_trojan_appears_on_an
droid_phones.html>

This is not the first time Android users have come under attack from
malicious software. Russian users were targeted recently by a trojan
that sent SMS messages to premium-rate numbers. In that case, as with
Geinimi, the phones were infected when their users tried to install apps
from unofficial sites. The message seems to be: stay with trusted
servers when looking for smartphone applications.

That's your interpretations of it. It's not mine.

 

[Big Steel]

It's your phone. I have no use for smartphones.

Yawn..

It is your usual worthless babble.

See ya I wouldn't want to.be ya.

Bye..

 

[DanS]

<http://www.pcworld.com/article/205165/another_sms_trojan_ap
pears_on_an droid_phones.html>


That's your interpretations of it. It's not mine.

There's nothing to interpret.

The first article you linked......

....."The tainted games found in the Chinese app stores include
Monkey Jump 2, Sex Positions, President vs. Aliens, City
Defense and Baseball Superstars 2010. Mahaffey says the
original versions of those games -- available in the official
Google Android Market store -- have not been affected."

And the second........."The application released in Russian
markets outside of Google’s Android Market, was disguised as a
media player."

So these are installed with the rogue apps you get at
unofficial app stores.

(Of course, none of this has to do with Windows7 anyway.)

 

[Big Steel]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:12:14 -0600, DanS

<snipped I didn't read your lip service babble>

<yawn>

See ya I wouldn't to be ya, most definitely.

Bye

 

[DanS]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:12:14 -0600, DanS

<snipped I didn't read your lip service babble>

Yes you did, and if you say you didn't you're a liar.

 

[Steel]

On 1/1/2011 8:26 AM, SC Tom wrote:

<snipped>

I got to be real careful about what I am doing with this smartphone,
because it's bleeding like an "open-sorer". I am now starting to find
this out.


<http://www.thesecurityblog.com/2010/12/geinimi-android-trojan-horse-discovered/>

<copied>

The Troj/Geinimi-A malware (also known as "Gemini") has been seen
incorporated into repackaged versions of various applications and games,
and attempts to steal data, and may contact remote URLs.
Although some media reports have portrayed Geinimi as the first ever
malware for the Google Android operating system, this isn't correct. For
instance, in the past we've seen banking malware has been found in the
Android Market, security researchers have demonstrated spyware rootkits
for Android devices, and users have been warned about Trojans from
Russia which send SMS text messages to premium-rate numbers.

<http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2010/01/11/banking-malware-android-marketplace/>

<copied>

According to a blog post from the First Tech Credit Union, an app
developer called 09Droid created applications which posed as a shell for
mobile banking applications, and in the process phished personal
information about the users's bank accounts. The information would,
presumably, have been usen for the purposes of identity theft.


<http://news.softpedia.com/news/Security-Researchers-Release-Rootkit-for-Android-150287.shtml>

<copied>

Security researchers from Trustwave's SpiderLabs released at the DEFCON
hackers conference a rootkit for the Android mobile operating system.
The malicious application, which can give attackers full control over
the devices, functions as a kernel module making it extremely powerful
and stealthy.

 

[Muad'Dib]

There's nothing to interpret.

The first article you linked......

...."The tainted games found in the Chinese app stores include
Monkey Jump 2, Sex Positions, President vs. Aliens, City
Defense and Baseball Superstars 2010. Mahaffey says the
original versions of those games -- available in the official
Google Android Market store -- have not been affected."

And the second........."The application released in Russian
markets outside of Google’s Android Market, was disguised as a
media player."

So these are installed with the rogue apps you get at
unofficial app stores.

(Of course, none of this has to do with Windows7 anyway.)

Naturally,certain morons will deny what you just pointed out. It is well
known and established that, one should only use trusted sites for
ANYTHING including phone apps. Android is not locked down like desktop
Linux, so yup one can catch all sorts of things when straying away from
the official app site. I have NO sympathy for idiots who go to
Joe-blow's app site and wind up getting burned. The law will not let you
get away with ignorance of it, so thus computing! I have a Motorola
Droid that I like very much. I only install apps from the official
source, but I don't go crazy installing them in the first place. ..Just
what I need is all.

G'day

 

[DanS]

Naturally,certain morons will deny what you just pointed
out.

Certain people will say something just because it's contrary
to what Alias said, no matter how lame or wrong they are
themselves.

And then, when called out on it, they claim they didn't even
read the post ? Talk about retarded......

It is well known and established that, one should only
use trusted sites for ANYTHING including phone apps.
Android is not locked down like desktop Linux, so yup one
can catch all sorts of things when straying away from the
official app site. I have NO sympathy for idiots who go to
Joe-blow's app site and wind up getting burned. The law
will not let you get away with ignorance of it, so thus
computing! I have a Motorola Droid that I like very much. I
only install apps from the official source, but I don't go
crazy installing them in the first place. ..Just what I
need is all.

I've got a cell phone. I use it just to make phone calls. Does
anyone do that anymore ?

 

[SC Tom]

I've got a cell phone. I use it just to make phone calls. Does
anyone do that anymore ?

I do! Mine doesn't even have a camera, although at times I think that might
be nice. It's a phone- I make and answer calls with it, period. No text
messages (which I think is lame anyhow. You have a perfectly good vocal
communications device. Why text?). No games. Nothing. Just phone calls.

 

[LouB]

I do! Mine doesn't even have a camera, although at times I think that
might be nice. It's a phone- I make and answer calls with it, period. No
text messages (which I think is lame anyhow. You have a perfectly good
vocal communications device. Why text?). No games. Nothing. Just phone
calls.

I do not text yet, but can see the value, just as I can see the value in
newsgroups. Quiet, private commo. Delayed commo.

 

[Big Steel]

I do! Mine doesn't even have a camera, although at times I think that might
be nice. It's a phone- I make and answer calls with it, period. No text
messages (which I think is lame anyhow. You have a perfectly good vocal
communications device. Why text?). No games. Nothing. Just phone

calls.

Sending an email or a text message doesn't
use phone minutes. They are cheaper to send than making that phone
call.

Other people use the smartphone to conduct day2day business they use
to use a laptop for when they travel.

I don't have to drag that laptop
around with me.

However, I view a smartphone phone and Android to be no different
than using the laptop with Windows on it. One has to be careful in
what he or she does with either one.

 

[SC Tom]

calls.

Sending an email or a text message doesn't use phone minutes. They are
cheaper to send than making that phone call.

*** Not on my plan. I get 300 minutes (which I've never come close to
using), but my text messages would cost me 15 cents each, sending or
receiving.

Other people use the smartphone to conduct day2day business they use to
use a laptop for when they travel.

*** I'm retired, so that's not applicable to me

 

[Steel]

*** Not on my plan. I get 300 minutes (which I've never come close to
using), but my text messages would cost me 15 cents each, sending or
receiving.

I got 900 minutes, and I get a lot of calls for potential contract work
from firms during prime-time working hours, a lot of voice mails and
callbacks, so those minutes are being used. I have a 200 text-messages a
month plan, so I use them. I also have two email accounts the smartphone
uses, which are heavily used by me to conduct day2day personal business.

*** I'm retired, so that's not applicable to me

It's applicable to myself and a whole lot of others, those who are on
the go, and they do not want to drag a laptop around.

However, I can turn the smartphone into a 3g wireless hotspot, connect
my laptop wirelessly to it and go to the internet to conduct personal
business too.

If one needs the features of a smartphone, including a mobile office
suite and other apps as needed for the smartphone, then one is going to
use those features. It beats dragging the laptop around with me.

If one doesn't need the features of a smartphone, then one sticks with a
simple cellular phone.

It is what it is.

 

[SC Tom]

I got 900 minutes, and I get a lot of calls for potential contract work
from firms during prime-time working hours, a lot of voice mails and
callbacks, so those minutes are being used. I have a 200 text-messages a
month plan, so I use them. I also have two email accounts the smartphone
uses, which are heavily used by me to conduct day2day personal business.


It's applicable to myself and a whole lot of others, those who are on the
go, and they do not want to drag a laptop around.

However, I can turn the smartphone into a 3g wireless hotspot, connect my
laptop wirelessly to it and go to the internet to conduct personal
business too.

If one needs the features of a smartphone, including a mobile office suite
and other apps as needed for the smartphone, then one is going to use
those features. It beats dragging the laptop around with me.

If one doesn't need the features of a smartphone, then one sticks with a
simple cellular phone.

It is what it is.

It is what it is. . .