I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.Peter said:When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
better idea...
http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de9d1c7c0827df13a34e467.jpg
Don't you then get 'thumb fatigue'?"Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" said:I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.
If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on theI avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.
If your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
edge of carpal tunnel syndrome.
No, no... thats not true..Wolf said:If it hurts, the damage is already done.
I avoid "mouse fatigue" by using a track ball mouse.
Pain is neither smart nor not smart - it only tells us there isHi Wolf
No, no... thats not true..
If that was true, pain would not be a very smart thing, but
fortunately pain is a very smart thing, it warns us that we are
doing something wrong, so we can stop doing it and find another way.
The pain of carpal tunnel damage is insidious. By the time you feelPain is neither smart nor not smart - it only tells us there is
something wrong; we are free to ignore it if we want to, and can stand it.
Perhaps the strangest thing is with the most extreme pain that we can do
nothing about (this is often said to be that associated with kidney
stones). In fact, internal pain is sometimes "referred" to somewhere
else which can be very misleading. The pain of angina is often felt in
the upper arm, rather than the chest. No point in rubbing your arm to
make the pain better...
Be careful about that. Most Keyboard wrist "rests" and mousepad wristIf your wrist hurts you should be careful because I think you are on the
edge of carpal tunnel syndrome. Why don't you use a mouse pad with a
wrist support? I use a cordless mouse too but I find the support useful,
it doesn't roll away and I don't move the mouse enough to be restricted
by the pad.
I use a Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman. The ball is larger than on aDon't you then get 'thumb fatigue'?
A user might find a happy medium with the scrolling and tracking speedsI'm with you, Dave. How anyone can use a regular mouse with a monitor
larger than 24" is beyond me. You have to pick and move the mouse from
one side of the mouse pad to the other just to get across the screen!
Some times you have to do this more than twice. With a trackball you
just flip your fingers and, Bam!, there it is on the other side. And
the mouse never moves from the original position!
Rubbish, just make sure you get a high DPI mouse and leave it set withThe said:How anyone can use a regular mouse with a monitor
larger than 24" is beyond me. You have to pick and move the mouse from
one side of the mouse pad to the other just to get across the screen!
Some times you have to do this more than twice.
Windows have an accelerator feature that make the pointer move even fasterThe said:I'm with you, Dave. How anyone can use a regular mouse with a monitor
larger than 24" is beyond me. You have to pick and move the mouse from
one side of the mouse pad to the other just to get across the screen!
Some times you have to do this more than twice.
Not if you set acceleration a bit higher in Windows 7.I'm with you, Dave. How anyone can use a regular mouse with a monitor
larger than 24" is beyond me. You have to pick and move the mouse from
one side of the mouse pad to the other just to get across the screen!
Some times you have to do this more than twice. With a trackball you
just flip your fingers and, Bam!, there it is on the other side. And
the mouse never moves from the original position!
I should perhaps clarify that acceleration seems a function of the mouseNot if you set acceleration a bit higher in Windows 7.
I have a mouse pad with a rest and I flip it 180 degrees so it is out ofRobert Sudbury said:Be careful about that. Most Keyboard wrist "rests" and mousepad
wrist "rests" are meant to be used when "resting", NOT while actually
using the keyboard or mouse.
The ergonomics of typing and mousing are such that your hand is
supposed to be effortlessly lifted slightly off the keyboard or table
top. If you ever took a typing class you should have been taught to
type with your hands off the desk top. This also leads into proper
height positioning of the desktop/keyboard so you aren't lifting your
shoulders to lift your arms to lift your hands.
Having said that, if you secure a rest that is soft enough, pliable
enough that supports without compression of the nerves or reducing the
blood flow in your wrist or hand, give it a shot, but don't use it as
a replacement for good posture.
I don't know anything about that. But being a diabetic, I have nerveRSI aren't to be sneezed at. I blew out my upper body muscles 17
years ago after working as an electronic artist for 8 years. I had to
give up computers, driving and opening my own doors for over a year
before my physiotherapy had rebuilt enough of my endurance to be able
to function again. I have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Cubital Tunnel
Syndrome and Chronic Bilateral Tendinitis. I've lost about 20% of the
feeling in my left hand's pinky and ring fingers (Cubital/Ulnar nerve)
and into my forearm on a good day, and I'm in constant pain or
tingling.
Sounds like great advice to me.To this day I cannot endure placing my arms or hands flat against any
hard surface for anymore than a couple of seconds.
Something I used to keep my wrists warm and support them, that
actually helped in times of need were:
http://www.mousemitt.com/
Strangely, don't also rule out light, reflections, noise, monitor
tilt, distance from monitor to your eyes, monitor height compared to
your natural resting position of your head, seat height, seat angles,
back support... so many things, and they all add up.
I used trackballs about 20 years ago and I loved them. I don't know whyTrack balls can have their own set of problems too. It's up to the
individual to find what works for them. Pain IS an indicator that
you're doing something that your body doesn't like, so don't ignore
it.
I had to change hands to the right because of CTD and it took only twoThe pain of carpal tunnel damage is insidious. By the time you feel
pain, the tunnel is already inflamed, and the ligaments are tightening
up. At this stage, the damage is mostly reversible. If you take the
appropriate steps, you can live with the residual damage. Paradoxically,
at a later stage, the wrist goes numb. At this stage, much of the damage
is permanent. Operation to loosen the tunnel is about the only cure. -
Based on my wife's experience, BTW.
HTH,
Wolf K.
Just changing the 'Right Click" to 'Left Click" is easy to doA user might find a happy medium with the scrolling and tracking speeds
of a mouse. Including the option of different mice.
I tried using trackballs one time, never could seem to get them under
control. But, I'm not a gamer, either, and that experience will
undoubtedly help in using a trackball on a computer.
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