get back working a BSOD'ing machine

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Evan Platt

I have a laptop I use that I was trying to upgrade the HD to a SSD.The
clone failed. I went to boot back in using the original drive, and it
BSOD's "A recent hardware change..". Cannot boot into any safe mode or
any Last Known Good" options.

Attempting to run sfc /scannow on the drive, I get
Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation.
I've tried it via both recovery mode and by slaving the HD to another
computer.

Is there any other way to perform a repair or upgrade install without
starting over on the drive?

Thanks :)
 
J

Jeff Layman

I have a laptop I use that I was trying to upgrade the HD to a SSD.The
clone failed. I went to boot back in using the original drive, and it
BSOD's "A recent hardware change..". Cannot boot into any safe mode or
any Last Known Good" options.

Attempting to run sfc /scannow on the drive, I get
Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation.
I've tried it via both recovery mode and by slaving the HD to another
computer.

Is there any other way to perform a repair or upgrade install without
starting over on the drive?

Thanks :)
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Do you have a recent image of the original HD? If so, is there any
chance of restoring it to the original HD using a bootable CD from
whatever program you used to create the image?
 
E

Evan Platt

Do you have a recent image of the original HD? If so, is there any
chance of restoring it to the original HD using a bootable CD from
whatever program you used to create the image?
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Nope, no image. That clone was going to be the image :(

Image / cloned drive won't boot either.
 
J

Jeff Layman

Nope, no image. That clone was going to be the image :(

Image / cloned drive won't boot either.
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Doesn't sound good.

Can you format the original HD and "restore/recreate" that using the
clone? What about using the recovery partition on the laptop to create
a "Purchase day" laptop, and try to copy the clone to that basic Win7
machine, rather than one which has been modified? As an outside
possibility, could the original HD have developed a coincidental fault
at the same time as you cloned it? Using the recovery partition would
at least show if the laptop is bootable in its original state.

I don't know what program you used to create the clone, but I happen to
have downloaded the EaseUS 5.0 manual a couple of days ago. In the
"Clone" section it has a couple of points to make which may be relevant.

1. For a successful copy process, make sure the capacity of the
destination hard disk is greater than or equal to the used space on the
source hard disk.

That sounds too obvious to be helpful, but could there have been any
used space on the source HD that you weren't aware of, and may have
compromised the cloning process?

2. If the destination disk is an SSD, checking the box "Optimize for
SSD" will ensure sector
alignment in the process, and the possibility of booting from the SSD
successfully after
recovery will be increased.

Full manual is here in case there is anything which might help:
http://www.todo-backup.com/download/docs/User_Guide.pdf
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

I don't know what program you used to create the clone, but I happen to
have downloaded the EaseUS 5.0 manual a couple of days ago. In the
"Clone" section it has a couple of points to make which may be relevant.

1. For a successful copy process, make sure the capacity of the
destination hard disk is greater than or equal to the used space on the
source hard disk.

That sounds too obvious to be helpful, but could there have been any
used space on the source HD that you weren't aware of, and may have
compromised the cloning process?
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EaseUS checks that there's enough room before letting you start a
backup, which is something that, sadly, Macrium doesn't do, at least on
my system.

But please note that I am talking about image backups here; either
program could be different in the way it deals with clones - I don't
know, since although the destination is smaller than the source, it is
larger than the used space in the source. Both programs allow that.

I *think* I recall that EaseUS checks space for clones as well as for
images, but I wouldn't bet on my memory if I were you :)
 
E

Evan Platt

Doesn't sound good.
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Yeah kinda what I thought :(
Can you format the original HD and "restore/recreate" that using the
clone?
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Well I sort of gave up and did a fresh install on the SSD Drive. I
still obviously have the original hard drive.
What about using the recovery partition on the laptop to create
a "Purchase day" laptop, and try to copy the clone to that basic Win7
machine, rather than one which has been modified? As an outside
possibility, could the original HD have developed a coincidental fault
at the same time as you cloned it? Using the recovery partition would
at least show if the laptop is bootable in its original state.
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Well, I've got that with the SSD now...
I don't know what program you used to create the clone, but I happen to
have downloaded the EaseUS 5.0 manual a couple of days ago. In the
"Clone" section it has a couple of points to make which may be relevant.
Acronis


1. For a successful copy process, make sure the capacity of the
destination hard disk is greater than or equal to the used space on the
source hard disk.
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Yep, 210 GB original drive, 256 GB SSD.
That sounds too obvious to be helpful, but could there have been any
used space on the source HD that you weren't aware of, and may have
compromised the cloning process?
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Shouldn't be...
2. If the destination disk is an SSD, checking the box "Optimize for
SSD" will ensure sector
alignment in the process, and the possibility of booting from the SSD
successfully after
recovery will be increased.

Full manual is here in case there is anything which might help:
http://www.todo-backup.com/download/docs/User_Guide.pdf
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I didn't see any option about SSD, but maybe I did miss it..

Thanks.
 
P

philo

I have a laptop I use that I was trying to upgrade the HD to a SSD.The
clone failed. I went to boot back in using the original drive, and it
BSOD's "A recent hardware change..". Cannot boot into any safe mode or
any Last Known Good" options.

Attempting to run sfc /scannow on the drive, I get
Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation.
I've tried it via both recovery mode and by slaving the HD to another
computer.

Is there any other way to perform a repair or upgrade install without
starting over on the drive?

Thanks :)
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Did you try a startup repair


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/startup-repair
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Errr.. as mentioned, I cannot boot into Windows at all, so that's
unfortunately not an option.
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You didn't read the link did you? This requires that you boot into your
Windows installation DVD.

Yousuf Khan
 
R

Robin Bignall

You didn't read the link did you? This requires that you boot into your
Windows installation DVD.
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No it doesn't. It instructs you to close all running applications in a
*running* system, put the Windows disk into the DVD reader and select
"install now". No booting involved.
 
C

charlie

No it doesn't. It instructs you to close all running applications in a
*running* system, put the Windows disk into the DVD reader and select
"install now". No booting involved.
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There are still some P/Cs that cannot boot using a CD/DVD or USB stick.
That aside --

Did the user ever expand on the cannot boot statement,
other than to say that safe mode was not working?

The original statement was so general that I could not tell if the P/C
even made it to the point that it started trying to boot an ops system.
 
E

Evan Platt

Did the user ever expand on the cannot boot statement,
other than to say that safe mode was not working?
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Umm... I thought I explained it pretty well, sorry if it wasn't
clear....
The original statement was so general that I could not tell if the P/C
even made it to the point that it started trying to boot an ops system.
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"Cannot boot into any safe mode or any Last Known Good" options.

Yes, I get the OS choice, and all of the selections BSOD. BSOD is
generally a clue it's booting into an OS.
 
E

Evan Platt

You didn't read the link did you?
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Yes, I did.
This requires that you boot into your
Windows installation DVD.
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Unless you know something I don't, if you boot via CD, you only get
the option to do a full / "New" installation, not an upgrade.
 
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