Firefox 4

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Ed Cryer

I've installed the new Firefox and it works well.
Unfortunately there are two add-ons I've been using that don't work now.
One is for TinyURL; the other for FlashGet3 download manager.
I don't know whether to wait for updates to come along or get some other
download manager.

Comments and help welcome.

Ed
 
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Big Steel

I've installed the new Firefox and it works well.
Unfortunately there are two add-ons I've been using that don't work now.
One is for TinyURL; the other for FlashGet3 download manager.
I don't know whether to wait for updates to come along or get some other
download manager.

Comments and help welcome.

Ed
FF 4 is slower than IE 9. I got FF 4 on both my Vista and Win 7
machines, but IE 9 on both machines is my primary browser.
 
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Jeff Layman

I've installed the new Firefox and it works well.
Unfortunately there are two add-ons I've been using that don't work now.
One is for TinyURL; the other for FlashGet3 download manager.
I don't know whether to wait for updates to come along or get some other
download manager.

Comments and help welcome.
You may get an answer by reposting in mozilla.support.firefox at
news.mozilla.org.
 
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Bob Henson

Ed said:
I've installed the new Firefox and it works well.
Unfortunately there are two add-ons I've been using that don't work now.
One is for TinyURL; the other for FlashGet3 download manager.
I don't know whether to wait for updates to come along or get some other
download manager.

Comments and help welcome.

Ed
Download the Tinyurl extension without installing it. Open the .xpi file
with PKzip or similar. Edit the file install.rdf in a plain text editor.
Find "maxversion" and replace the number "3.x" with 4.0. Save the file back
into the .xpi. Install into Firefox, and Robert is your avuncular relative.

The same may apply to the other extension, but there may be other reasons
why that won't work, I haven't tried it. I have hacked Tinyurl though - it
works fine now. If there is another Firefox version before there is an
update to TinyUrl (it hasn't been updated for a while) you'll have to hack
it again with the new version.
 
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Flint

Download the Tinyurl extension without installing it. Open the .xpi file
with PKzip or similar. Edit the file install.rdf in a plain text editor.
Find "maxversion" and replace the number "3.x" with 4.0. Save the file back
into the .xpi. Install into Firefox, and Robert is your avuncular relative.

The same may apply to the other extension, but there may be other reasons
why that won't work, I haven't tried it. I have hacked Tinyurl though - it
works fine now. If there is another Firefox version before there is an
update to TinyUrl (it hasn't been updated for a while) you'll have to hack
it again with the new version.

Seems to be a tad more involved than simply having Firefox 4 simply
'overide' the max version checking.
 
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Ed Cryer

Download the Tinyurl extension without installing it. Open the .xpi file
with PKzip or similar. Edit the file install.rdf in a plain text editor.
Find "maxversion" and replace the number "3.x" with 4.0. Save the file back
into the .xpi. Install into Firefox, and Robert is your avuncular relative.

The same may apply to the other extension, but there may be other reasons
why that won't work, I haven't tried it. I have hacked Tinyurl though - it
works fine now. If there is another Firefox version before there is an
update to TinyUrl (it hasn't been updated for a while) you'll have to hack
it again with the new version.

I'd try it if I could download the Tinyurl extension. How do I get it
onto my desktop; and then, after editing, how do I put it in Firefox?

Ed
 
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Bob Henson

Flint said:
Seems to be a tad more involved than simply having Firefox 4 simply
'overide' the max version checking.
A bit, but if you use and extension to overide it, you run the risk of
installing other broken/untested extensions that may do more harm. No big
deal either way - I'd rather hack the file.
 
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Bob Henson

Ed said:
I'd try it if I could download the Tinyurl extension. How do I get it
onto my desktop; and then, after editing, how do I put it in Firefox?
Right click the green "Add to Firefox" button, select "Save Link As" as
download it to disk. Hack it as above, then add it to Firefox using
"install Add-on from file" on the drop down menu on the button to the left
of the "Search all add-ons" box in Add-ons Manager.
 
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Ed Cryer

Right click the green "Add to Firefox" button, select "Save Link As" as
download it to disk. Hack it as above, then add it to Firefox using
"install Add-on from file" on the drop down menu on the button to the left
of the "Search all add-ons" box in Add-ons Manager.
Thanks for that. It worked fine.

Ed
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

I've installed the new Firefox and it works well.
Unfortunately there are two add-ons I've been using that don't work now.
One is for TinyURL; the other for FlashGet3 download manager.
I don't know whether to wait for updates to come along or get some other
download manager.

Comments and help welcome.

Ed
The add-ons will be up to date soon enough. But too the folks who say
IE9 is so much faster than Firefox:
http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20047314-12.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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Flint

The add-ons will be up to date soon enough. But too the folks who say
IE9 is so much faster than Firefox:
http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20047314-12.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

I've got a slew of updated add-ons (22), plugins, running Nuvola theme
on one of my systems (AMD Athlon-II 240, 3GB RAM), and it loads in >2<
seconds to Chrome or IE-9's vanilla configurations which takes >1<
second... big *whoopdiedoo*.

For the extra second it may take to load, I'll take FF4 and its
extensibility over IE9 or Chrome any day.
 
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Bob Henson

Ed said:
When it appears in Windows update I might just take it.
I'll replace my IE8 with it, but whether I'll use it will depend on my
thoughts after basic trials.
It's worth having on the grounds that a) it is better than IE8 and b) it
comes in handy for those sites that are written in Msoft code, are none
standards compliant and won't display correctly in Firefox. I call it from
the IE View extension occasionally. Firefox is still considerably better on
configurability alone.
 
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occam

On 3/26/2011 2:27 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:


FF 4 is slower than IE 9. I got FF 4 on both my Vista and Win 7
machines, but IE 9 on both machines is my primary browser.
And the relevance of your post to the OP's query?
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

When it appears in Windows update I might just take it.
I'll replace my IE8 with it, but whether I'll use it will depend on my
thoughts after basic trials.
I've given it a go and I don't find it any faster than FF4 myself.
Have to wait a few months for more testing and feedback from userland
before I deploy it at my site. Given that all the new browsers have a
less-is-more GUI, any one is as good as the other. Don't forget,
Firefox and Chrome stood undefeated at pwn2own (but Chrome got some
last minute patches in a few days before the browsers were frozen).
IE9 is still vulnerable to some very old and unpatched vulns.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

Ed said:
It's worth having on the grounds that a) it is better than IE8 and b) it
comes in handy for those sites that are written in Msoft code, are none
standards compliant and won't display correctly in Firefox. I call it from
the IE View extension occasionally. Firefox is still considerably better on
configurability alone.
Wait a minute, it is IE and not Firtefox that is NOT standards
compliant. Don't call sites that require (read: proprietary and
non-standards compliant) IE-specific technology the problem. You have
it all wrong.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

I've got a slew of updated add-ons (22), plugins, running Nuvola theme
on one of my systems (AMD Athlon-II 240, 3GB RAM), and it loads in >2<
seconds to Chrome or IE-9's vanilla configurations which takes >1<
second... big *whoopdiedoo*.

For the extra second it may take to load, I'll take FF4 and its
extensibility over IE9 or Chrome any day.
The reason IE loads faster in Windows is because the OS and Browser
are shared components of each other. If half the browser is already
loaded as part of the OS, well no wonder it starts up fast. Gee, I
wonder why IE will never be made for Mac or Linux.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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Ed Cryer

Wait a minute, it is IE and not Firtefox that is NOT standards
compliant. Don't call sites that require (read: proprietary and
non-standards compliant) IE-specific technology the problem. You have
it all wrong.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
If just found out that IE8 still works for Flashget3; even with right click.
So, ................. Just a minute while I think!
Yes, got it. I'm going to use IE8 as my default browser for the time being.

Ed
 
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Bob Henson

Thee said:
Wait a minute, it is IE and not Firtefox that is NOT standards
compliant.
Yes, that's exactly what I said above. Try to keep up.
Don't call sites that require (read: proprietary and
non-standards compliant) IE-specific technology the problem. You have
it all wrong.
No, you read it all wrong.
 

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