Easy way to import OE6 files to Windows 7?

[PJF]

I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
this?

Thanks and regards,

PJF

 

[Trev]

I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
this?

Thanks and regards,

PJF

Down load Windows Live Mail Which is the current equivalent of OE. And then
it will be File > Import >Messages> OE 6 Just make sure you have saved them
somewhere save

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have a large collection of OE 6 messages that I'd like to import into a
new PC running Windows 7 Ultimate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do
this?

The issue here is not that the new PC runs Windows 7 Ultimate. The
issue is what e-mail client (and/or newsreader, if that's what you
mean) you are running on the new PC.

So tell us what e-mail client and/or newsreader you are running and
that you want to import messages to. After you do that, I or someone
else here can very likely help you.

 

[PJF]

Trev,

Sounds like a plan! Thanks so much.

PJF

Down load Windows Live Mail Which is the current equivalent of OE. And then
it will be File > Import >Messages> OE 6 Just make sure you have saved them
somewhere save

 

[PJF]

Ken,

Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these must
be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to my
new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.

Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.

PJF

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken,

Many thanks for your reply.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these must
be added by the user.

That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.

I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
painless way to add a mail client/newsreader

There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.

(as well as a browser)

Not necessary.

to my
new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.

Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
for a newsreader.

My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
express did not do them well.

So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.

And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.

Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.

PJF

 

[Trev]

You're welcome. Glad to help.




That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.





There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.




Not necessary.




Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
for a newsreader.

My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
express did not do them well.

Trev likes Outlook too But is sticking with Outlook 2003. But uses Live mail
for Newsgroups LOl

So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.

And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.

 

[SC Tom]

I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and make
up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
it was in OE.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.

SC Tom

Ken,

Many thanks for your reply. I won't take delivery of the new PC until
early
December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these
must
be added by the user. I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
painless way to add a mail client/newsreader (as well as a browser) to my
new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.

Any further thoughts would be most welcomed.

PJF

 

[PJF]

Thanks, Ken for the follow up. I'm encouraged by the suggestions and
thoughtful advice you and the other responders have offered.

Kindest regards and happy Thanksgiving!

PJF

Ken,

Many thanks for your reply.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

I won't take delivery of the new PC until early
December. I agree "Ultimate" is irrelevant. But I understand there is no
mail client (or Internet browser (?)) in any Win 7 version; that these must
be added by the user.

That's correct regarding and e-mail client, but it is *not* correct
regarding a browser. Internet Explorer still comes with it.

I just want to be sure I can find a relatively
painless way to add a mail client/newsreader

There should be no issue with pain. There are many choices of e-mail
clients and newsreaders, and even combination e-mail clients and
newsreaders. Many of the choices are free, others need to be bought.

(as well as a browser)

Not necessary.

to my
new PC. Trev suggested (see his reply above) D/L'ing Windows Live Mail and
importing the OE6 files to that program from my old PC.

Windows Live Mail is certainly a choice, and it's a choice that many
people like. But not everybody prefers the same things. I, for
example, prefer Microsoft Outlook 2007 for e-mail, and Forte Agent 6.0
for a newsreader.

My recommendation is that you ignore both what Trev likes best and
what I do. You should decide for yourself which program (or programs)
that *you* like best. What works best for you depends on what you do
and how you use the programs. To mention a single example, one of the
difference between newsreaders is whether they handle binary
newsgroups at all, or if so how well. I don't do binary newsgroups at
all, so that doesn't matter to me, but if you do, it would be an
important feature to you. I don't know whether Windows Live Mail does
binary newsgroups well, but I do know that prior versions of outlook
express did not do them well.

So my recommendation to you is that you start out by downloading and
trying several of the freeware and shareware products available, and
determining for yourself how well they work for you. And you can do
those trials now, under whatever version of Windows you are currently
using. You don't have to wait until you get your new Windows7 PC.

And regarding importing old messages, as I intimated in my previous
message, almost all of these products will let you do that easily.

 

[PJF]

Thanks, Tom for your input. While there may be more capable mail clients
available, Live Mail seems to be exactly what I need. When I get my new PC,
I think my best course is to D/L and install Live Mail, especially in view
of your narrative of how well it worked for you.

Regards,

PJF

I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and make
up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
it was in OE.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.

SC Tom

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Trev likes Outlook too But is sticking with Outlook 2003. But uses Live mail
for Newsgroups LOl

That's fine. I wasn't complaining about your recommendation, just
advising PJF to make his own decisions/

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Thanks, Ken for the follow up. I'm encouraged by the suggestions and
thoughtful advice you and the other responders have offered.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

Kindest regards and happy Thanksgiving!

Same to you.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I agree with Ken that you should try a few email and/or newsreaders and make
up your own mind. But if you liked OE6 in XP or Windows Mail in Vista, I
think you'll like and be very comfortable with Live Mail. It is almost the
same interface as its 2 predecessors and, for me at least, has a very low
learning curve. I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
it was in OE.
Of course, that's just my opinion, and yours and others' may vary.

I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he
should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
as much as I like others.

 

[DanS]

I don't have any real disagreement with what you say. I think he

should try WLM, but he should also try others before making up his
mind. I've tried WLM, and also thought it was OK, but I don't like it
as much as I like others.

Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file, including
attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ? And a 2Gig
limit ?

Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.

 

[C]

Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file, including
attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ? And a 2Gig
limit ?

Those are what turned me away from OE a long, long time ago.

You're confusing Outlook with OE. OE has .dbx files for each folder.
Outlook has one .pst file for everything. OE has a 100MB limit per .dbx
file and Outlook 03 and 07 are only limited in size by your hard drive.

C

 

[DanS]

You're confusing Outlook with OE. OE has .dbx files for each folder.
Outlook has one .pst file for everything. OE has a 100MB limit per
.dbx file and Outlook 03 and 07 are only limited in size by your hard
drive.

Thanks. And WLM ?

 

[C]

Thanks. And WLM ?

No idea. I ditched Outlook Express years ago and use T-Bird and Outlook
03 now. I looked at Windows Live Mail once but didn't look into its
innards or research it.

C

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Dan.

Does WLM still keep all messages in one giant database like file,
including
attachments and such ? Is there still a corruption problem ?

OE kept all messages in a few .dbx files, which it called Folders. If you
got 1000 emails from your Mom of 1 KB each, you might have a Mom.dbx folder
of about 1 MB holding al those messages. If one byte in one of those
messages was corrupted, you probably would lose all 1,000 of them. In
addition to your probably several folders, there was on called Folders.dbx
which acted as an Index for all the others. As I'm sure you know, OE was an
integral part of Windows XP and prior.

Windows Mail (note the TWO-word name) is an integral part of Vista (and
won't even run on WinXP, or on Win7 without some unsupported tweaking). It
changed the storage system to keep each of those 1,000 emails from Mom in a
separate .eml file; since the cluster size is 4 GB on an NTFS drive, those
emails would take up 4 MB of space. But a single bad message would lose
only that message, not the whole 1,000.

Windows Live Mail (note the THREE-word name) is not a part of any Windows
version, but it will run on WinXP, Vista and Win7. You can download it from
http://download.live.com, along with any of the other Windows Live
Essentials that you might want, such as the Calendar or Contacts. It uses
almost the same file system as WM, so corruption in a single message does
not cost us the whole Message Store.

And a 2Gig
limit ?

I don't know anything about a 2 GB limit in any of these applications.
Perhaps you are thinking of the file size or volume size limits that were
imposed by earlier file systems, such as FAT(16).

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

 

[DanS]

Hi, Dan.


OE kept all messages in a few .dbx files, which it called Folders. If
you got 1000 emails from your Mom of 1 KB each, you might have a
Mom.dbx folder of about 1 MB holding al those messages. If one byte
in one of those messages was corrupted, you probably would lose all
1,000 of them. In addition to your probably several folders, there
was on called Folders.dbx which acted as an Index for all the others.
As I'm sure you know, OE was an integral part of Windows XP and prior.

Windows Mail (note the TWO-word name) is an integral part of Vista
(and won't even run on WinXP, or on Win7 without some unsupported
tweaking). It changed the storage system to keep each of those 1,000
emails from Mom in a separate .eml file; since the cluster size is 4
GB on an NTFS drive, those emails would take up 4 MB of space. But a
single bad message would lose only that message, not the whole 1,000.

Windows Live Mail (note the THREE-word name) is not a part of any
Windows version, but it will run on WinXP, Vista and Win7. You can
download it from http://download.live.com, along with any of the other
Windows Live Essentials that you might want, such as the Calendar or
Contacts. It uses almost the same file system as WM, so corruption in
a single message does not cost us the whole Message Store.


I don't know anything about a 2 GB limit in any of these applications.
Perhaps you are thinking of the file size or volume size limits that
were imposed by earlier file systems, such as FAT(16).

RC

Wow....that's a lot of info....and *does* answer the question !!!

Thanks

 

[allanc]

I exported all my messages and my address book from OE6 and
imported them right into Live Mail. When I opened it on my Win7 Home Premium
notebook after importing, all my contacts and messages were there, just like
it was in OE.

Which format/options did you choose in Outlook Express?