Document Viewer

[Dragon]

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had a
document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program will
not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some please help.
All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it
would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to
find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

cheers dave

 

[Nil]

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows
vista i had a document viwer program that could read all my text
files so i could find particular songs for my karaoke discs, but
with windows 7 that program will not work. I have searched
everywhere with no sucess could some please help. All my files are
in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it would take
me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to find
the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

It's not clear to me how "you did it in Vista" or what, exactly, you're
trying to do.

Most file search programs will find files based on file name, or
content. Windows' built in search will do that. I like Agent Ransack.

http://www.mythicsoft.com/page.aspx?type=agentransack&page=home

 

[Ed Cryer]

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i
had a document viwer program that could read all my text files so i
could find particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7
that program will not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess
could some please help. All my files are in .txt format and have over
2000 files so manually it would take me forever, so i need soemthing
that would search each one to find the song i am looking for like i did
in vista.

cheers dave

If it worked in Vista it's usually got a high percentage likelihood of
working in Win7.
What's the program?

Ed

 

[Seth]

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had
a document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program
will not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some
please help. All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so
manually it would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search
each one to find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.

 

[Dragon]

"Nil" wrote in message

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows
vista i had a document viwer program that could read all my text
files so i could find particular songs for my karaoke discs, but
with windows 7 that program will not work. I have searched
everywhere with no sucess could some please help. All my files are
in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it would take
me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to find
the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

It's not clear to me how "you did it in Vista" or what, exactly, you're
trying to do.

Most file search programs will find files based on file name, or
content. Windows' built in search will do that. I like Agent Ransack.

http://www.mythicsoft.com/page.aspx?type=agentransack&page=home

In Vista and earlier version of windows I had a program called document
viewer which i still have and what it done it allowed you to search for text
within a text, doc or other file if you get what I mean. i dont know where
i got the program from but had it a long time and it worked perfect upto
when i changed to Windows 7. i am not actually looking for files but
content of words inside files if you get what i mean, if i do that with the
seacrh option from windows it only finds the files i have made not the text
within that file.

 

[Dragon]

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i
had a document viwer program that could read all my text files so i
could find particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7
that program will not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess
could some please help. All my files are in .txt format and have over
2000 files so manually it would take me forever, so i need soemthing
that would search each one to find the song i am looking for like i did
in vista.

cheers dave

If it worked in Vista it's usually got a high percentage likelihood of
working in Win7.
What's the program?

Ed

Hi ed the original program i have not sure where i actually got it from as i
have had it a long time, is called Document Viewer v4.0. I have tried every
which way in windows 7 to get it to work with no luck, compatibility mode
for every windows so any other advise would be helpful

dave

 

[Dragon]

"Seth" wrote in message

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had
a document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program
will not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some
please help. All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so
manually it would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search
each one to find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.


Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who made it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get it
to work in win 7

 

[choro]

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If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.


Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who
made it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get it
to work in win 7

Oh why, oh why do people try to get such old programs installed on Win 7
machines?

I'll tell you what? I've got some old DOS programs. Would you be
interested? You might even get them to work with Win 7 and if you can
manage that feat they will work like lightning! I've even got Lotus
Suite somewhere on 42 (yes 42!) floppies!

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Dave.

"Document Viewer" is such a generic name that it has been used by many
producers for many different programs. Try Bingling that phrase and see how
many different programs you come up with! Bing gets 96 million hits; Google
over 3 million; even ask.com gets 212,000. HP has one (up to version 7.0
now); Dell has one; Adobe has one...

The only way you're going to find YOUR Document Viewer is by examining the
program to find out WHICH Document Viewer you have. Can you still run it in
Vista, or is that machine gone forever? If you can find a way to run it,
does it have a Help file? Can you click Help | About? Can you open a
Command Prompt window (what we old-timers still incorrectly call a "DOS
window") and use the Type command? (Ignore all the binary "garbage" and
look for the name of the program and its maker in plain text sequences.)
Can you use Windows Explorer and right-click on the program's executable
file (docview.exe??) and then click Properties? Can you tell us the actual
name of the executable file? How long is "a very long time": months?
years? decades? Did you use it in Windows before Vista? Have you tried
the Compatibility option to set the program compatible with Vista?

HOW have you tried to determine just WHICH Document Viewer you have? You've
got to give us SOMETHING to go on! :^{

For plain .txt files, Windows 7's Search command should be able to find any
text in them. Or the old faithful "find" DOS command in a Command Prompt
window: To find "Home on the Range" in any .txt file in the Songs folder on
Drive D:, use:
find "home on the range" d:\songs\*.txt

Or just find "home" might be enough if you are already in that folder.

For Windows 7 Search, click Start | Control Panel | Indexing Options. Then
click the Advanced button, then File Types. Find the .txt extension,
highlight it, be sure the "Index Properties and File Contents" button is
selected; the Filter Description should should then say "Plain Text Filter".
OK your way out of Indexing Options and then give Win7 enough "idle time" to
do the indexing in the background.

In short, Dave, there are a LOT of things you can try, but we have no clue
as to which ones you may have tried. Please help us help you.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Dragon" wrote in message
"Seth" wrote in message

Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had
a document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program
will not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some
please help. All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so
manually it would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search
each one to find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.


Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who made it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get it
to work in win 7

 

[Nil]

In Vista and earlier version of windows I had a program called
document viewer which i still have and what it done it allowed you
to search for text within a text, doc or other file if you get
what I mean. i dont know where i got the program from but had it
a long time and it worked perfect upto when i changed to Windows
7. i am not actually looking for files but content of words
inside files if you get what i mean, if i do that with the seacrh
option from windows it only finds the files i have made not the
text within that file.

As I mentioned before, Windows' built in search will do what you
describe, although I find that it's not very reliable. Many other
search programs will do it, too, including the one I mentioned, Agent
Ransack.

 

[Ed Cryer]

Hi, Dave.

"Document Viewer" is such a generic name that it has been used by many
producers for many different programs. Try Bingling that phrase and see
how many different programs you come up with! Bing gets 96 million hits;
Google over 3 million; even ask.com gets 212,000. HP has one (up to
version 7.0 now); Dell has one; Adobe has one...

The only way you're going to find YOUR Document Viewer is by examining
the program to find out WHICH Document Viewer you have. Can you still
run it in Vista, or is that machine gone forever? If you can find a way
to run it, does it have a Help file? Can you click Help | About? Can you
open a Command Prompt window (what we old-timers still incorrectly call
a "DOS window") and use the Type command? (Ignore all the binary
"garbage" and look for the name of the program and its maker in plain
text sequences.) Can you use Windows Explorer and right-click on the
program's executable file (docview.exe??) and then click Properties? Can
you tell us the actual name of the executable file? How long is "a very
long time": months? years? decades? Did you use it in Windows before
Vista? Have you tried the Compatibility option to set the program
compatible with Vista?

HOW have you tried to determine just WHICH Document Viewer you have?
You've got to give us SOMETHING to go on! :^{

For plain .txt files, Windows 7's Search command should be able to find
any text in them. Or the old faithful "find" DOS command in a Command
Prompt window: To find "Home on the Range" in any .txt file in the Songs
folder on Drive D:, use:
find "home on the range" d:\songs\*.txt

Or just find "home" might be enough if you are already in that folder.

For Windows 7 Search, click Start | Control Panel | Indexing Options.
Then click the Advanced button, then File Types. Find the .txt
extension, highlight it, be sure the "Index Properties and File
Contents" button is selected; the Filter Description should should then
say "Plain Text Filter". OK your way out of Indexing Options and then
give Win7 enough "idle time" to do the indexing in the background.

In short, Dave, there are a LOT of things you can try, but we have no
clue as to which ones you may have tried. Please help us help you.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


in message
in message


If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.


Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who
made it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get it
to work in win 7

I've just put that to the test on my computer, and I was quite staggered
by how well it works. I didn't know it was available.

The test? I have lots and lots of text files in foreign languages on an
internal hard drive; tens of gigabytes. It finds anything I can throw at
it; and in any language with Roman script.

Ed

 

[Seth]

Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who made
it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get
it
to work in win 7

If you don't know who made it I certainly don't either. If its that old
maybe consider a replacement.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Ed.

I've just put that to the test...

Put WHAT to the test? I suggested several things; which did you try?
Win7's Indexing Options?

Indexing Options works great - so long as we use that Advanced | File Types
setting - and IF there is a Filter available for it. The Text filter works
fine. But when I was producing our weekly Rotary bulletin, using Microsoft
Publisher, I could not find a filter for .pub files, so I could not search
my 3 years of past bulletins to find a name or other word that I knew was
there. I don't know if a filter is available now for .pub - or for .nws or
..eml files. (I just now looked; yes, all those filters are now installed on
my computer.)

By the way, I forgot to mention to the OP that he does not need ANY
"document viewer" program to simply "view" or read text files. Notepad does
this quite adequately, and there must be thousands of other plain-text
readers out there, and most all sophisticated apps, such as Microsoft Word,
can easily handle them, too.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Ed Cryer" wrote in message

Hi, Dave.

"Document Viewer" is such a generic name that it has been used by many
producers for many different programs. Try Bingling that phrase and see
how many different programs you come up with! Bing gets 96 million hits;
Google over 3 million; even ask.com gets 212,000. HP has one (up to
version 7.0 now); Dell has one; Adobe has one...

The only way you're going to find YOUR Document Viewer is by examining
the program to find out WHICH Document Viewer you have. Can you still
run it in Vista, or is that machine gone forever? If you can find a way
to run it, does it have a Help file? Can you click Help | About? Can you
open a Command Prompt window (what we old-timers still incorrectly call
a "DOS window") and use the Type command? (Ignore all the binary
"garbage" and look for the name of the program and its maker in plain
text sequences.) Can you use Windows Explorer and right-click on the
program's executable file (docview.exe??) and then click Properties? Can
you tell us the actual name of the executable file? How long is "a very
long time": months? years? decades? Did you use it in Windows before
Vista? Have you tried the Compatibility option to set the program
compatible with Vista?

HOW have you tried to determine just WHICH Document Viewer you have?
You've got to give us SOMETHING to go on! :^{

For plain .txt files, Windows 7's Search command should be able to find
any text in them. Or the old faithful "find" DOS command in a Command
Prompt window: To find "Home on the Range" in any .txt file in the Songs
folder on Drive D:, use:
find "home on the range" d:\songs\*.txt

Or just find "home" might be enough if you are already in that folder.

For Windows 7 Search, click Start | Control Panel | Indexing Options.
Then click the Advanced button, then File Types. Find the .txt
extension, highlight it, be sure the "Index Properties and File
Contents" button is selected; the Filter Description should should then
say "Plain Text Filter". OK your way out of Indexing Options and then
give Win7 enough "idle time" to do the indexing in the background.

In short, Dave, there are a LOT of things you can try, but we have no
clue as to which ones you may have tried. Please help us help you.

RC


in message
in message



If the name of the program wasn't such a closely guarded secret perhaps
someone may have already used in in Win7 and figured out the issue.


Its not a secret its called Document Viewer v4.0 but i dont know who
made it
or from where i actually got it, had it a very long time and can not get
it
to work in win 7

I've just put that to the test on my computer, and I was quite staggered
by how well it works. I didn't know it was available.

The test? I have lots and lots of text files in foreign languages on an
internal hard drive; tens of gigabytes. It finds anything I can throw at
it; and in any language with Roman script.

Ed

 

[Dragon]

"Dragon" wrote in message
Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had a
document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program will
not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some please help.
All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it
would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to
find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

cheers dave

Hi guys yes it may be an old dos program i dont know, i cant use it on vista
anymore as i dont have it and i have not tried anything else to search these
text files as i am not a software expert. All what you are suggesting is
new to me so i will try different things and let you know. yes i would like
to replace the program with something similar but that is why i am asking on
here for that advise

cheers dave

 

[bj]

This will encourage me to look into indexing more, to see what-all it may be
able to do for me that I haven't even though to ask. (I'm still blundering
around in W7 plus also rebuilding & reorganizing my system after a major
crash.)

I also have years of .PUB files, but they're also in .PDF form. But mostly
I have a ton of email that I'm more likely to search & to a lesser extent
newsgroup messages.
bj

"R. C. White" wrote in message

Indexing Options works great - so long as we use that Advanced | File Types
setting - and IF there is a Filter available for it. The Text filter works
fine. But when I was producing our weekly Rotary bulletin, using Microsoft
Publisher, I could not find a filter for .pub files, so I could not search
my 3 years of past bulletins to find a name or other word that I knew was
there. I don't know if a filter is available now for .pub - or for .nws or
..eml files. (I just now looked; yes, all those filters are now installed on
my computer.)

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Dave.

You've still not made it clear whether you want to READ the files, or to
SEARCH for text in them. Those are two different jobs and may take two
separate programs.

There are MANY programs to simply read text files. Every version of Windows
has included Notepad, which reads text files quite nicely; that's its job!
(Start | All Programs | Windows Accessories | Notepad - or just press the
WinKey, type "notepad" and press Enter.) And more sophisticated programs
like Microsoft Word will handle them easily.

To Search for text in a folder (or a whole computer) full of files, just
click that Win7 "orb" (aka Start or the WinKey or a few other names), then
type in what you are looking for and....wait. That orb also acts as the
intro to Windows Search. It will first search for a file with the name you
typed in, and then will search for that text within files. See my first
message to Ed Cryer in this thread for how to use the Indexing Options to be
sure Win7 will search the contents of .txt files. When you get it working
right, just press the WinKey and type "home" - with or without the quotes -
into the box that will appear in the lower left corner of your screen, the
one that says "Search programs and files", and it will list "Home on the
Range", "My Old Kentucky Home", and any other files that include the word
"home". Then all you have to do is click on the file of your choice.

If you will make the effort (investment) to learn a few basic functions of
your computer and Windows, it will pay you dividends, not just for today's
problem but as long as you keep using computers. And that might be for the
rest of your life. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Dragon" wrote in message
"Dragon" wrote in message
Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had a
document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program will
not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some please help.
All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it
would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to
find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

cheers dave

Hi guys yes it may be an old dos program i dont know, i cant use it on vista
anymore as i dont have it and i have not tried anything else to search these
text files as i am not a software expert. All what you are suggesting is
new to me so i will try different things and let you know. yes i would like
to replace the program with something similar but that is why i am asking on
here for that advise

cheers dave

 

[Ed Cryer]

Hi, Ed.


Put WHAT to the test? I suggested several things; which did you try?
Win7's Indexing Options?

I enter a word in the "Search Programs and Files" box, and it finds all
instances of it.

So then, I've looked at my settings for Indexing, and it has every
single box ticked for file types.
All of that must have been default on original setup, because I've
certainly not been into it.

Under XP I used to use things like Copernicus desktop search program; it
built a vast index, but did no more than I'm now getting from default
Win7 settings.

Ed

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Ed.

Thanks for the clarification. During the Vista beta (2005-2006), when this
search tool was introduced, I suffered a lot of frustration in trying to get
Search to work for me, and never did get good results. I don't think that
..pub filter was available then, nor the .nws and .eml filters. At least,
they were not widely available; I did finally manage to get some and then
lost them in later beta builds. I've had to rebuild the Index many times
over the past few years.

I don't recall explicitly installing the filters in my current Win7 SP1 and
was pleasantly surprised to find them there when I looked yesterday. Maybe
SP1 added them when I wasn't looking. ;<)

Windows Search FINALLY seems to be working as it was always supposed to
work.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Ed Cryer" wrote in message

Hi, Ed.


Put WHAT to the test? I suggested several things; which did you try?
Win7's Indexing Options?

I enter a word in the "Search Programs and Files" box, and it finds all
instances of it.

So then, I've looked at my settings for Indexing, and it has every
single box ticked for file types.
All of that must have been default on original setup, because I've
certainly not been into it.

Under XP I used to use things like Copernicus desktop search program; it
built a vast index, but did no more than I'm now getting from default
Win7 settings.

Ed

 

[Dragon]

Sorry RC yes i want to read what is in the text file, e.g i have 1000 text
documents labeled karaoke 1-1000 with artists and songs written in them so
if i want to find say Killer Queen by queen for instance i used to use the
document viewer on vista and i could select all the files i want to search
and it would tell me what disk it was on or disks. I have tried with the
search option on Win7 but it doesnt seem to do it. I then go to all the
files i mentioned above select all and search that way with no luck, also
done what was mentioned in the indexing option in control panel and still no
luck.

please help i would just like some sort of program that i can open select
the files i want to search, put in the song or artist and it will do the
rest but cannot find one.


"R. C. White" wrote in message

Hi, Dave.

You've still not made it clear whether you want to READ the files, or to
SEARCH for text in them. Those are two different jobs and may take two
separate programs.

There are MANY programs to simply read text files. Every version of Windows
has included Notepad, which reads text files quite nicely; that's its job!
(Start | All Programs | Windows Accessories | Notepad - or just press the
WinKey, type "notepad" and press Enter.) And more sophisticated programs
like Microsoft Word will handle them easily.

To Search for text in a folder (or a whole computer) full of files, just
click that Win7 "orb" (aka Start or the WinKey or a few other names), then
type in what you are looking for and....wait. That orb also acts as the
intro to Windows Search. It will first search for a file with the name you
typed in, and then will search for that text within files. See my first
message to Ed Cryer in this thread for how to use the Indexing Options to be
sure Win7 will search the contents of .txt files. When you get it working
right, just press the WinKey and type "home" - with or without the quotes -
into the box that will appear in the lower left corner of your screen, the
one that says "Search programs and files", and it will list "Home on the
Range", "My Old Kentucky Home", and any other files that include the word
"home". Then all you have to do is click on the file of your choice.

If you will make the effort (investment) to learn a few basic functions of
your computer and Windows, it will pay you dividends, not just for today's
problem but as long as you keep using computers. And that might be for the
rest of your life. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Dragon" wrote in message
"Dragon" wrote in message
Hi guys could someone help me please, when i was using Windows vista i had a
document viwer program that could read all my text files so i could find
particular songs for my karaoke discs, but with windows 7 that program will
not work. I have searched everywhere with no sucess could some please help.
All my files are in .txt format and have over 2000 files so manually it
would take me forever, so i need soemthing that would search each one to
find the song i am looking for like i did in vista.

cheers dave

Hi guys yes it may be an old dos program i dont know, i cant use it on vista
anymore as i dont have it and i have not tried anything else to search these
text files as i am not a software expert. All what you are suggesting is
new to me so i will try different things and let you know. yes i would like
to replace the program with something similar but that is why i am asking on
here for that advise

cheers dave

 

[Nil]

For plain .txt files, Windows 7's Search command should be able to
find any text in them. Or the old faithful "find" DOS command in
a Command Prompt window: To find "Home on the Range" in any .txt
file in the Songs folder on Drive D:, use:
find "home on the range" d:\songs\*.txt

Or just find "home" might be enough if you are already in that
folder.

For Windows 7 Search, click Start | Control Panel | Indexing
Options. Then click the Advanced button, then File Types. Find
the .txt extension, highlight it, be sure the "Index Properties
and File Contents" button is selected; the Filter Description
should should then say "Plain Text Filter". OK your way out of
Indexing Options and then give Win7 enough "idle time" to do the
indexing in the background.

Thank you for this discussion about Windows 7 search. I still don't
like it much, and I think it's liable to miss the kind of stuff I often
look for, but at least now I understand a little better how to optimize
it for my use, and better understand why it might occasionally fail.