disk space for install??

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Seasidepeter

Hi - I'm trying to install win 7 on my girlfriend's laptop. She
currently runs Vista, and I've bought the Home Premium upgrade version
of win7.
She has 50 Gb of free space on a 75 Gb hard drive. Windows
compatabiliuty checker said "fine, go ahead" (my paraphrasing). But on
installation it says there';s not enou8gh disk space to install win7.
That's a pretty basic compatability check, surely?

How much free disk space does the bloody program need to install?

Anybody know please?
 
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Dennis Pack

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Dennis Pack
Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64.
Seasidepeter said:
Hi - I'm trying to install win 7 on my girlfriend's laptop. She currently
runs Vista, and I've bought the Home Premium upgrade version of win7.
She has 50 Gb of free space on a 75 Gb hard drive. Windows compatabiliuty
checker said "fine, go ahead" (my paraphrasing). But on installation it
says there';s not enou8gh disk space to install win7.
That's a pretty basic compatability check, surely?

How much free disk space does the bloody program need to install?

Anybody know please?

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Seasidepeter:
Perform a disk cleanup and defragmentation prior to doing an update
installation. The "not enough disk space" message may be caused by not
having a block of disk space large enough to hold the Image of the Win-7
installation. Vista and Windows 7 are installed as an image rather than
copying files in earlier versions. Another option that should work is with
Laptop on the Vista welcome screen insert the Win-7 upgrade disk. You should
get an option to perform a clean installation which will lose all data on
the Laptop. Have a great day.
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Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64.


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SC Tom

Seasidepeter said:
Hi - I'm trying to install win 7 on my girlfriend's laptop. She currently
runs Vista, and I've bought the Home Premium upgrade version of win7.
She has 50 Gb of free space on a 75 Gb hard drive. Windows compatabiliuty
checker said "fine, go ahead" (my paraphrasing). But on installation it
says there';s not enou8gh disk space to install win7.
That's a pretty basic compatability check, surely?

How much free disk space does the bloody program need to install?

Anybody know please?
It's not trying to install to the Recovery partition, is it?
 
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philo

Seasidepeter said:
Hi - I'm trying to install win 7 on my girlfriend's laptop. She
currently runs Vista, and I've bought the Home Premium upgrade version
of win7.
She has 50 Gb of free space on a 75 Gb hard drive. Windows
compatabiliuty checker said "fine, go ahead" (my paraphrasing). But on
installation it says there';s not enou8gh disk space to install win7.
That's a pretty basic compatability check, surely?

How much free disk space does the bloody program need to install?

Anybody know please?

try the upgrade from within Windows rather than booting from the dvd
 
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Seasidepeter

philo said:
try the upgrade from within Windows rather than booting from the dvd
Yes, I have - same error message. Very strange - and utterly predictable
when a chap is trying to impress a girl!
I've uninstalled ev erything except windows vista on the hard drive,
leaving 60Gb free - and still upgrade says "not enough space..." Bah
 
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Trimble Bracegirdle

Seasidepeter ;) Win 7 64 Bit Ultimate say it needs 21 GB "Recommended"
Of this around 11 Gigs is the WINDOWS Folder .
The other installed Program files & Users Folders take up 1 GB total.

The big variable in the install or any WINDOWS is the pagefile.sys
& hyberfile.sys files whose size depends on the amount of main memory..
On a 4 GB RAM machine they will both be around 4 GB each.
The installer would take a smaller than that 21 GB available disc space
by reducing the initial sizes.

I manually set pagefile.sys to a fixed 1GB (which is enough on my General
purpose
games etc., Home PC with 6 GB Ram) & turn of hibernation completely so no
hyberfile.sys.
My recently installed 64bit is using a grand total of 14 GB

The total WINDOWS 7 size is probably a bit smaller for the Basic , Pro
etc., versions.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") mouse (WIN 95 used 30 to 50 MB)
 
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Seasidepeter

SC said:
It's not trying to install to the Recovery partition, is it?
As far as I can tell, the pc (a laptop) is set up with a single C drive,
consisting of a single partition. I've defragmented it, cleaned out all
tmp files etc, removed all her documents, pictures, music etc (onto an
external drive!), then defragged again.

Windows Explorer reports 51Gb free space. Yet the upgrade program still
halts with a "not enough free space" message.

?????
 
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SC Tom

Seasidepeter said:
As far as I can tell, the pc (a laptop) is set up with a single C drive,
consisting of a single partition. I've defragmented it, cleaned out all
tmp files etc, removed all her documents, pictures, music etc (onto an
external drive!), then defragged again.

Windows Explorer reports 51Gb free space. Yet the upgrade program still
halts with a "not enough free space" message.

?????
Quite often, laptops will have a hidden partition for Recovery purposes. You
won't see it as a drive letter; it's available from a boot-up key stroke,
usually one of the "F" keys. But an installation CD/DVD will look at the
first partition it sees as the place to put itself, and since the Recovery
partitions are only about 6 or 7GB, the install will error out. Does the
installation give you a choice of which partition to install to?
Check this post :
http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/7850-windows-7-7100-not-enough-disk-space-error-2.html
about 2/3 of the way down. Has Easus Partition Manager (or, I would think,
anything similar) been used on the laptop?
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
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Seasidepeter

SC said:
Quite often, laptops will have a hidden partition for Recovery purposes.
You won't see it as a drive letter; it's available from a boot-up key
stroke, usually one of the "F" keys. But an installation CD/DVD will
look at the first partition it sees as the place to put itself, and
since the Recovery partitions are only about 6 or 7GB, the install will
error out. Does the installation give you a choice of which partition to
install to?
Check this post :
http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/7850-windows-7-7100-not-enough-disk-space-error-2.html

about 2/3 of the way down. Has Easus Partition Manager (or, I would
think, anything similar) been used on the laptop?
Thanks for the response...yes, Easus PM was used to create one large
partition on the C: drive - the machine came with a C: and D: partition,
which my friend didn't want.
I can't seem to track down a Recovery partition, despite pressing all
the F keys like a deranged monkey. Running the Custom Install by booting
direct from the upgrade cd puts up a message "Windows cannot be
installed (to Disk 0 Partition 1). The partition was reserved by the
computer's OEM.
This is getting beyond me..can you point me at any way to unreserve it?
 
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Trimble Bracegirdle

Apologies as some of Window Folder sizes I've just given in the
previous post are far to large. Its 10 GB total rather than 14GB.

Opening a Explorer window displaying the Drive contents
of the Windows 7 installation & then 'selecting' the folders &
asking for 'properties' (which is what I was doing) gives
a much bigger total than that given when looking at the Drive's properties
in 'My Computer' or from a CHKDSK report.

Its something to do with Links within Windows pointing to Files & Folders
more than once so things get counted repeatedly ...some of them 'Pretend' ..
not there at all.
My actual WINDOWS 7 Ultimate 64bit just installed Total is
10.1 GB with a fixed 1GB Pagefile.sys & no Hiberfile.sys at all.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") mouse (He's still confused)
 
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Dennis Pack

Seasidepeter:
I don't currently have the OE hard drive in laptop, I'll try to find it
to get a proper answer to your problem. A possible solution may be to boot
off the upgrade DVD, select clean installation on the larger available
partition listed, do not enter a product key at this time perform a clean
installation, do not register it yet. With the system running insert the
installation DVD perform an upgrade installation to the partition that you
just installed to, insert the product key and register after installation.
Have a great day.

--
Dennis Pack
Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64.
Seasidepeter said:
Thanks for the response...yes, Easus PM was used to create one large
partition on the C: drive - the machine came with a C: and D: partition,
which my friend didn't want.
I can't seem to track down a Recovery partition, despite pressing all the
F keys like a deranged monkey. Running the Custom Install by booting
direct from the upgrade cd puts up a message "Windows cannot be installed
(to Disk 0 Partition 1). The partition was reserved by the computer's OEM.
This is getting beyond me..can you point me at any way to unreserve it?

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SC Tom

Seasidepeter said:
Thanks for the response...yes, Easus PM was used to create one large
partition on the C: drive - the machine came with a C: and D: partition,
which my friend didn't want.
I can't seem to track down a Recovery partition, despite pressing all the
F keys like a deranged monkey. Running the Custom Install by booting
direct from the upgrade cd puts up a message "Windows cannot be installed
(to Disk 0 Partition 1). The partition was reserved by the computer's OEM.
This is getting beyond me..can you point me at any way to unreserve it?
I'm not sure how to get around it, but something you might try is to create
an image of the C: drive using something like Acronis True Image or a
similar program, then reformat your hard drive and create a single
partition. Then restore the image and try the upgrade after you're sure the
disk will boot. I'm thinking that the upgrade program will then see it as a
"regular" drive and not an Easus partition.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Thanks for the response...yes, Easus PM was used to create one large
partition on the C: drive - the machine came with a C: and D: partition,
which my friend didn't want.
I can't seem to track down a Recovery partition, despite pressing all
the F keys like a deranged monkey. Running the Custom Install by booting
direct from the upgrade cd puts up a message "Windows cannot be
installed (to Disk 0 Partition 1). The partition was reserved by the
computer's OEM.
This is getting beyond me..can you point me at any way to unreserve it?
It is possible that the D: was the recovery partition. Crazy as it sound, I
have an HP laptop in which the recovery partition was partition D:. I
removed the letter as soon as I saw that...

I'm thinking, though, that the problem might be with the master boot record
or the partition table, which might still be pointing to the lost D:. If
EASEUS can't help, maybe another program, like GPartEd, Gnome Partition
Editor, can fix that.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php
 
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Seasidepeter

Gene said:
It is possible that the D: was the recovery partition. Crazy as it sound, I
have an HP laptop in which the recovery partition was partition D:. I
removed the letter as soon as I saw that...

I'm thinking, though, that the problem might be with the master boot record
or the partition table, which might still be pointing to the lost D:. If
EASEUS can't help, maybe another program, like GPartEd, Gnome Partition
Editor, can fix that.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php
A big thank you to all who replied in this thread- the problem is
solved. Gene was right: the OEM had "reserved" the D drive via the mbr.
And I'd mucked that up by removing D.
The answer was to use Diskpart to remove the whole of the remaining
partition (the override option); then to reformat the whole drive; then
followed SC Tom's upgrade procedure - and it all worked a treat.

Thanks very much chaps - a success story.
 
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SC Tom

Seasidepeter said:
A big thank you to all who replied in this thread- the problem is solved.
Gene was right: the OEM had "reserved" the D drive via the mbr. And I'd
mucked that up by removing D.
The answer was to use Diskpart to remove the whole of the remaining
partition (the override option); then to reformat the whole drive; then
followed SC Tom's upgrade procedure - and it all worked a treat.

Thanks very much chaps - a success story.
You're very welcome. Glad all is well now!
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

A big thank you to all who replied in this thread- the problem is
solved. Gene was right: the OEM had "reserved" the D drive via the mbr.
And I'd mucked that up by removing D.
The answer was to use Diskpart to remove the whole of the remaining
partition (the override option); then to reformat the whole drive; then
followed SC Tom's upgrade procedure - and it all worked a treat.

Thanks very much chaps - a success story.
Yay!
 
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I had this error upgrading from Vista to Vista pro... I had a "reserved" D: partition of only 100MB, and the OS on C: drive. Unfortunately, Vista Ultimate kept giving a space error because there was not enough room on the "D:" drive. Duh.
So, entered Disk Management, and was able to right click on the C: drive partition and "enable" it. Somehow the D: drive was "enabled" originally, so any executables attempted to install there.
Hope this helps someone else.
Google "Vista disk management" to find out how to get to it in the Control Panel.
 

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