Changing font

R

Ray

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
W

...winston

Html or Plain text ?



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"Ray" wrote in message
Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
R

Ray

Both if they are different

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"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
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"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
W

...winston

Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003) to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message
Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
R

Ray

Thanks, Winston. Your solution is great and what I asked for. However, I
am missing something - I don't find a WLM button. I have tried everything
listed as Windows Live or Windows Mail but always come back to the message
window. I don't think I'm stupid but then again - - - If Calibri is the
default (which is what I want) somehow it has been changed to Ariel 10.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in
the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and
RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003)
to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost
the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an
Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in
a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
W

...winston

The WLM button is on the WLM 2011 Ribbon Menu. Clicking on it allows one to access WLM's Optinos.
- the button is the blue 'thing' in the upper left (blue rectangle with two icons - one looks like a page with written text, the
other icon an inverted equilateral triangle)

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Ribbon GUI
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/windows-live-mail-wave-4-ribbon-gui/

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Options Menu
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/windows-live-mail-version-2011-options-menu/



--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message
Thanks, Winston. Your solution is great and what I asked for. However, I
am missing something - I don't find a WLM button. I have tried everything
listed as Windows Live or Windows Mail but always come back to the message
window. I don't think I'm stupid but then again - - - If Calibri is the
default (which is what I want) somehow it has been changed to Ariel 10.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in
the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and
RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003)
to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost
the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an
Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in
a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
R

R. C. White

Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse over
that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home label - for a
second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live Mail" will appear.
That's IT!

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Ray" wrote in message

Thanks, Winston. Your solution is great and what I asked for. However, I
am missing something - I don't find a WLM button. I have tried everything
listed as Windows Live or Windows Mail but always come back to the message
window. I don't think I'm stupid but then again - - - If Calibri is the
default (which is what I want) somehow it has been changed to Ariel 10.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in
the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and
RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003)
to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost
the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an
Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in
a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
R

Ray

Thanks again, Winston. Not only changed the default font but discovered
other options I wanted to change.
Appreciate your help.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
The WLM button is on the WLM 2011 Ribbon Menu. Clicking on it allows one to
access WLM's Optinos.
- the button is the blue 'thing' in the upper left (blue rectangle with two
icons - one looks like a page with written text, the
other icon an inverted equilateral triangle)

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Ribbon GUI
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/windows-live-mail-wave-4-ribbon-gui/

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Options Menu
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/windows-live-mail-version-2011-options-menu/

--
....winston
msft mvp mail

"Ray" wrote in message

Thanks, Winston. Your solution is great and what I asked for. However, I
am missing something - I don't find a WLM button. I have tried everything
listed as Windows Live or Windows Mail but always come back to the message
window. I don't think I'm stupid but then again - - - If Calibri is the
default (which is what I want) somehow it has been changed to Ariel 10.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in
the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and
RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003)
to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost
the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an
Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in
a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
W

...winston

You're welcome.



--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message
Thanks again, Winston. Not only changed the default font but discovered
other options I wanted to change.
Appreciate your help.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
The WLM button is on the WLM 2011 Ribbon Menu. Clicking on it allows one to
access WLM's Optinos.
- the button is the blue 'thing' in the upper left (blue rectangle with two
icons - one looks like a page with written text, the
other icon an inverted equilateral triangle)

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Ribbon GUI
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/windows-live-mail-wave-4-ribbon-gui/

Windows Live Mail 2011 - Options Menu
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/windows-live-mail-version-2011-options-menu/

--
....winston
msft mvp mail

"Ray" wrote in message

Thanks, Winston. Your solution is great and what I asked for. However, I
am missing something - I don't find a WLM button. I have tried everything
listed as Windows Live or Windows Mail but always come back to the message
window. I don't think I'm stupid but then again - - - If Calibri is the
default (which is what I want) somehow it has been changed to Ariel 10.
----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html:
WLM button/Options/Mail/Compose

Plain text: (default is Calibri 12pt - previously Times New Roman)
No option is present in WLM to modify the default. Nor is there an option in
the mail composition windows to change the font when
composing in plain text.

Supplemental background info (applicable at the time of WLM11 final beta and
RTM release)
Like Office, the default 'Styles' changed from Times New Roman(Office 2003)
to take advantage of Clear Type technology with Calibri
11 pt as the new default(Cambria for headings)...i.e. a common font (almost
the same 'pt') and feature borrowed(shared code ?) with
Office(e.g. Spell Checker and Custom Dictionary also Office code).

One can change the font and size for reading plain text messages
WLM button/Options/Mail/Read/Fonts
- Note: If using IE9, the ability to do so was resolved and deployed by an
Oct 2011 Internet Explorer update (i.e. ensure IE is
updated to the latest cumulative update). Likewise, while not documented in
a kb article, folks using IE8 have also reported the
same ability after the Oct IE update.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Both if they are different

-----
Ray


"...winston" wrote in message
Html or Plain text ?
--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Ray" wrote in message

Windows 7 Live Mail

How do you change the default font to compose a post?
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

R. C. said:
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home label
- for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live Mail"
will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Perhaps it's worth remembering that Albert Einstein defined common sense as a
'set of prejudices acquired by age 18'. (Quoted by Gordon Dennis on letters
page
of computing, 5 February 2004.)
 
A

Alex Clayton

R. C. said:
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...
Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Alex Clayton said:
R. C. said:
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...
Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.
Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you put it like that. But since
this is a Windows 7 newsgroup, and W7 has the best (though not very
good) speech access for the visually impaired so far, please try turning
it (the speech access) on, and then turning your monitor off, for a
while, and using all your favourite software (including the one with the
blue button you describe).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Rather, she's like many educated people of her generation: modern enough to be
seduced by the sheer human interest of celebrity and popular culture, yet
traditional enough to feel bad about the seduction. - Robert Crampton on
Vanessa Feltz, Radio Times 15-21 January 2011
 
A

Alex Clayton

Alex Clayton said:
In message <[email protected]>, R. C.
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...
Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.
Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you put it like that. But since
this is a Windows 7 newsgroup, and W7 has the best (though not very
good) speech access for the visually impaired so far, please try turning
it (the speech access) on, and then turning your monitor off, for a
while, and using all your favourite software (including the one with the
blue button you describe).
If you mean me, I don't need it so am not interested. If someone needs
something I think they should just buy it. I rarely see anyone win when
someone decides the lawyers need to get in on it. Except the Lawyers
that is.
 
C

Char Jackson

Alex Clayton said:
On 1/23/2012 12:15 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, R. C.
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...

Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.
Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you put it like that. But since
this is a Windows 7 newsgroup, and W7 has the best (though not very
good) speech access for the visually impaired so far, please try turning
it (the speech access) on, and then turning your monitor off, for a
while, and using all your favourite software (including the one with the
blue button you describe).
If you mean me, I don't need it so am not interested. If someone needs
something I think they should just buy it. I rarely see anyone win when
someone decides the lawyers need to get in on it. Except the Lawyers
that is.
Buy it? What should they buy? A new set of eyes?
 
A

Alex Clayton

In message<[email protected]>, Alex Clayton
On 1/23/2012 12:15 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message<[email protected]>, R. C.
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...

Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.

Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you put it like that. But since
this is a Windows 7 newsgroup, and W7 has the best (though not very
good) speech access for the visually impaired so far, please try turning
it (the speech access) on, and then turning your monitor off, for a
while, and using all your favourite software (including the one with the
blue button you describe).
If you mean me, I don't need it so am not interested. If someone needs
something I think they should just buy it. I rarely see anyone win when
someone decides the lawyers need to get in on it. Except the Lawyers
that is.
Buy it? What should they buy? A new set of eyes?
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...

This is what I was talking about. I am guessing there is some software
to talk to the blind? If not suing MS is not going to help.
I know they have been working on software to type for you as you talk. I
don't "need" it. When I was back in school and was learning to type I
was tempted to buy it. I did not as I knew if I did I would not put the
effort into learning. Now if someone "needs" this, I don't want MS being
forced to provide it free.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Alex Clayton said:
On 1/23/2012 12:22 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message<[email protected]>, Alex Clayton
On 1/23/2012 12:15 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message<[email protected]>, R. C.
Hi, Ray.

We often call it "the button with no name". But if you hover the mouse
over that button in the upper left corner - just left of the Home
label - for a second or two, a text box with the name "Windows Live
Mail" will appear. That's IT!
[]
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...

Just what we need. Yet another lawyer to sue MS.

Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you put it like that. But since
this is a Windows 7 newsgroup, and W7 has the best (though not very
good) speech access for the visually impaired so far, please try turning
it (the speech access) on, and then turning your monitor off, for a
while, and using all your favourite software (including the one with the
blue button you describe).

If you mean me, I don't need it so am not interested. If someone needs
something I think they should just buy it. I rarely see anyone win when
someone decides the lawyers need to get in on it. Except the Lawyers
that is.
Buy it? What should they buy? A new set of eyes?
Clearly, another victory of form over function. If we sighted folk
mostly miss it, how are VI/VH supposed to find it, especially if that's
the only popup? Needs someone to bring a test case under the relevant
disability legislation ...

This is what I was talking about. I am guessing there is some software
to talk to the blind? If not suing MS is not going to help.
I know they have been working on software to type for you as you talk.
I don't "need" it. When I was back in school and was learning to type I
was tempted to buy it. I did not as I knew if I did I would not put the
effort into learning. Now if someone "needs" this, I don't want MS
being forced to provide it free.
The blind mostly access via "screenreader" software - the name has
stuck, though it does more than just passively read the screen these
days. The best-known two variants are JAWS and Window-Eyes, though there
are others. There was something extremely basic provided as part of
Windows XP, and 7 has something better, though still not as good as the
commercial offerings (which, sadly, cost hundreds).

It's not the provision of the screenreader software that needs forcing -
Microsoft are slowly beginning to do that anyway, see above; it's a bit
more thought on the part of designers in general. Microsoft are far from
alone in this: web page designers are the worst.

In this case: screenreader software can only speak what is there as text
in some form. If the software has a button which has a meaningless
popup, that's all the screenreader can say.

So I'm not asking them to be forced to provide something for free, just
a little more thought on the part of software designers. With care at
the design stage, little or no extra cost is involved: it's a bit like
wheelchair access - if it is thought about at the design stage, it can
be designed into a building far more cheaply than providing it
afterwards to an existing building, in fact in the case of speech
access, I'd say the additional cost is less or zero (for wheelchair
access there is still some cost, but a bit of thought can ensure text is
there at hardly any extra cost).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Rather, she's like many educated people of her generation: modern enough to be
seduced by the sheer human interest of celebrity and popular culture, yet
traditional enough to feel bad about the seduction. - Robert Crampton on
Vanessa Feltz, Radio Times 15-21 January 2011
 

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