Backup and Restore

[Stan Brown]

After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".

But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.

I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
installed?

I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
Restore is deactivated.



[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Create-a-system-
repair-disc

 

[Char Jackson]

After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".

But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.

I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
installed?

I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
Restore is deactivated.



[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Create-a-system-
repair-disc

On one of my Win 7 systems, I have Acronis True Image Home 2012
installed and when I open Control Panel like you describe, the main
thing I see there is Acronis, but over on the left side there's an
item called "Turn on Windows Backup" which implies that it's currently
disabled. I'm guessing your theory about Acronis taking over seems to
make sense.

 

[Stan Brown]

Following up on my inability to open Backup and Restore, I tried
clicking the Start button and then typing "system repair disc" (in
quotes). That gave me "Create a system repair disc", which *did*
open.

So I put a blank disc in my drive and I clicked on "Create disc".
Immediately an error popped up:

"System repair disc could not be created
"The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)"

Windows 7 Forums says[1] that this comes about because the recovery
partition was deleted, which in a way is true (actually, it never
existed on this hard disk). The workaround, apparently,[2] is to
boot from the Windows 7 install disc and use the recdisc command.
But I don't have a Windows install disc because Dell doesn't provide
one.

I'm not actually asking for help here, just sharing information.
Thankfully, there are multiple paths to getting the system up and
running again after a disaster. I wanted a repair disc because I'm a
suspenders-and-belt man, but since I have one recovery method that
works I don't feel that a second method is essential.

[1] http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/172462-system-
repair-disk-could-not-created.html

[2] http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-
system/cannot-create-recovery-disc-getting-the-parameter/50e514b3-
36f3-4ae9-bb3a-69db19cdd06f?page=2

 

[Stan Brown]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:56:26 -0400, Stan Brown


On one of my Win 7 systems, I have Acronis True Image Home 2012
installed and when I open Control Panel like you describe, the main
thing I see there is Acronis, but over on the left side there's an
item called "Turn on Windows Backup" which implies that it's currently
disabled. I'm guessing your theory about Acronis taking over seems to
make sense.

Thanks for replying.

You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
2011 (me).

 

[Paul]

After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".

But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.

I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
installed?

I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
Restore is deactivated.



[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Create-a-system-
repair-disc

Just for fun, try this

sdclt.exe /configure

Once you enter that, right click on the entry and select "Run as Administrator".

I had a problem with my Windows 7 install, and that comes to mind.
It took me forever to find that.

That still doesn't fix the buttons that are broken in the interface,
but I suspect that'll get you far enough to complete your task. It
won't fix the other things that will also be broken.

And I don't use Acronis and haven't tested Acronis on that system.
I don't know what broke mine. A possibly theory is, it's related
to the backup package Acer included on the laptop, "NTI something
or other". Apparently, backup packages like to subvert the buttons.
Maybe it was a combination of built-in backup, plus the installation
of SP1 ?

Paul

 

[Paul]

Following up on my inability to open Backup and Restore, I tried
clicking the Start button and then typing "system repair disc" (in
quotes). That gave me "Create a system repair disc", which *did*
open.

So I put a blank disc in my drive and I clicked on "Create disc".
Immediately an error popped up:

"System repair disc could not be created
"The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)"

Windows 7 Forums says[1] that this comes about because the recovery
partition was deleted, which in a way is true (actually, it never
existed on this hard disk). The workaround, apparently,[2] is to
boot from the Windows 7 install disc and use the recdisc command.
But I don't have a Windows install disc because Dell doesn't provide
one.

I'm not actually asking for help here, just sharing information.
Thankfully, there are multiple paths to getting the system up and
running again after a disaster. I wanted a repair disc because I'm a
suspenders-and-belt man, but since I have one recovery method that
works I don't feel that a second method is essential.

[1] http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/172462-system-
repair-disk-could-not-created.html

[2] http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-
system/cannot-create-recovery-disc-getting-the-parameter/50e514b3-
36f3-4ae9-bb3a-69db19cdd06f?page=2

The creation of a System Repair (not reinstall) CD, should be able
to function for even retail system users. It shouldn't be tied to
any 15GB hidden partitions like the one on my laptop. (It shouldn't
be plucking files out of there. The files should already be on C:
or in the SYSTEM RESERVED 100MB partition.)

This is going to seem puzzling, but it's possible the software
is doing generic Backup and Restore type functions, before making
your CD. Doing a check it doesn't actually need to do. Perhaps it *is* the
missing 15GB partition, but only in the sense that the disk partition
setup, doesn't match something seen at an earlier time. At the
moment, I haven't got a clue for you, as to what it wants to see.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com...l/thread/d1d5e820-4b3f-4848-8861-8c0736c5fd1a

"Normdeb Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:59 PM

This does not just apply to restoring. I have the same error
when I was trying to create my restore iso. The answers above
make me think, just maybe. Remove my pendrives from the machine
and tried again and bingo!
"

So it could be, that *some* drive configuration thing, is preventing
you from making your 200MB CD. A difference in partitions, a difference
in currently connected drives.

Just a guess,
Paul

 

[Monty]

You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
2011 (me).

Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.

 

[mick]

You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
2011 (me).

Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.[/QUOTE]

I am using Acronis 2011 and I see exactly what you do.

 

[Char Jackson]

Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.

Thanks for doing that and saving me the trouble. As Stan will see, the
Acronis options are located within the Backup and Restore section in
Control Panel, at least with the 2012 version.

 

[Stan Brown]

Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.

Thanks for clarifying, and for the picture.

As I posted, I can't even open Backup and Restore, so I can't
determine whether mine has Acronis TI 2011 on it.

 

[Stan Brown]

Thanks for doing that and saving me the trouble. As Stan will see, the
Acronis options are located within the Backup and Restore section in
Control Panel, at least with the 2012 version.

Except that I can't open Backup and Restore: nothing happens when I
click on it.

Should I be worried? I don't have any desire to use Windows Backup.

 

[Char Jackson]

Except that I can't open Backup and Restore: nothing happens when I
click on it.

Should I be worried? I don't have any desire to use Windows Backup.

I wouldn't worry about it in the slightest. Since you use Acronis, you
can start it by explicitly using its program icon/shortcut. There's
really no need to start Acronis via the Control Panel's Backup &
Restore applet.

 

[Stan Brown]

I wouldn't worry about it in the slightest. Since you use Acronis, you
can start it by explicitly using its program icon/shortcut. There's
really no need to start Acronis via the Control Panel's Backup &
Restore applet.

Thanks. It just seems odd that Acronis on my system has inhibited
Backup and Restore from opening, but I don't care about Backup and
Restore for its own sale so I'll take your advice and not worry.

 

[Zaidy036]

After my recent episode, I thought I'd better create a system repair
disc. Microsoft says[1] to open Backup and Restore in Control Panel
and then in the left pane click "Create a system repair disc".

But when I click Backup and Restore, nothing happens. I tried half a
dozen of the other Control Panel applets, and they all open fine.
But "Backup and Restore" and its two sub-items, "Back up your
computer" and "Restore files from backup" do absolutely nothing.

I wonder if this is because I have Acronis TrueImage Home 2011
installed?

I'm not overly concerned about not creating a system repair disc,
since I now know I can restore from my backup and then do a repair
with a Win 7 install disc. Still, I'm curious about why Backup and
Restore is deactivated.



[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Create-a-system-
repair-disc

ATI creates "Bootable Rescue Media" as one of its own Tools.

 

[Roy Smith]

Thanks for replying.

You see Acronis in Control Panel? I don't. Unless I'm looking in
the wrong place, that must be a difference between TI 2012 (you) and
2011 (me).

No you must be looking in the wrong place, I also use Acronis True
Image 2011 and see what Mr. Jackson has described. Here's a
screenshot of the window:

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20111105-1ybf-57kb

 

[Roy Smith]

Following up on my inability to open Backup and Restore, I tried
clicking the Start button and then typing "system repair disc" (in
quotes). That gave me "Create a system repair disc", which *did*
open.

So I put a blank disc in my drive and I clicked on "Create disc".
Immediately an error popped up:

"System repair disc could not be created
"The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)"

Windows 7 Forums says[1] that this comes about because the recovery
partition was deleted, which in a way is true (actually, it never
existed on this hard disk). The workaround, apparently,[2] is to
boot from the Windows 7 install disc and use the recdisc command.
But I don't have a Windows install disc because Dell doesn't provide
one.

I'm not actually asking for help here, just sharing information.
Thankfully, there are multiple paths to getting the system up and
running again after a disaster. I wanted a repair disc because I'm a
suspenders-and-belt man, but since I have one recovery method that
works I don't feel that a second method is essential.

[1] http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/172462-system-
repair-disk-could-not-created.html

[2] http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-
system/cannot-create-recovery-disc-getting-the-parameter/50e514b3-
36f3-4ae9-bb3a-69db19cdd06f?page=2

Oh if all you want to do is create the Microsoft recovery disc then
you can download the iso here:

http://digiex.net/downloads/downloa.../2660-windows-7-64-bit-x64-recovery-disc.html

It doesn't matter what version you have (i.e. Home Premium, Pro,
Ultimate) but it doe matter if you're running a 32 or 64-bit system.
If you're using a 32-bit OS then the link is on the same page, just
scroll down a little to find it.

If you don't trust a download, you could always go to a friend,
neighbor or relative's house that has a Windows 7 PC and have them
create one for you.

 

[dweebken]

Except that I can't open Backup and Restore: nothing happens when I
click on it.

Should I be worried? I don't have any desire to use Windows Backup.

Acronis Integration has taken it over.

 

[Stan Brown]

ATI creates "Bootable Rescue Media" as one of its own Tools.

Yes, but that is not a Windows rescue or repair disc. Maybe you
missed my article: I was quite disconcerted to find after I used that
bootable disk to restore my hard drive that my hard drive would not
book, and a *Windows* rescue disk or install disk was needed to fix
it.

 

[Stan Brown]

Oh if all you want to do is create the Microsoft recovery disc then
you can download the iso here:

http://digiex.net/downloads/downloa.../2660-windows-7-64-bit-x64-recovery-disc.html

Thanks, Roy. I finally found a clear reference that states a Windows
install disk can function as a recovery disk, and I have a copy of a
64-bit Windows install disk now, so I'm good.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:22:08 -0400, Stan Brown
Char's comment prompted me to have a look at "Control Panel / Backup
and Restore". I also see Acronis True Image Home 2012 within the
panel. I have stored a PNG file at
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tt19qq1lcu99vzy from which you can
either view or download, as you wish.

I'm intrigued by the "Nonstop Backup\Protect partitions and files
continuously." option. How does this work? I don't mean how does it
achieve what it does, I mean how is it protection: surely a large reason
for any sort of backup is to be able to restore to before something went
bad. Unless this is constantly storing _all_ changes, which would make
for a pretty huge backup storage requirement, so that you can say go
back to before some event.