All My Restore Points Are Useless

[Big Punk]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is
worth two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored.
Anything to do with Service Pack 1, I wonder?

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and
patience, so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using
up disk space?

Windows XP Disk Cleanup allowed me to remove restore points, but I don't
see a similar option in Windows 7.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is
worth two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored.
Anything to do with Service Pack 1, I wonder?

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and
patience, so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using
up disk space?

Windows XP Disk Cleanup allowed me to remove restore points, but I don't
see a similar option in Windows 7.

I know that Norton Internet Security 2009 by default prevents System
Restore from working. Whether they've fixed it in later releases, I have
no idea: I've abandoned that program.

Somewhere in its configuration, the 2009 version has a check mark next
to something like "Protect this program from changes". Uncheck it and
System Restore works.

Since I haven't had the program running for a long time, I can't recall
the details.

Oops - I lied. I have a record of it.

<QUOTE>
System Restore with Norton IS
Open NIS
-> Computer Settings
-> Misc
-> Turn OFF Product Security Tamper Protection
</QUOTE>

 

[Big Steel]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is
worth two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored.
Anything to do with Service Pack 1, I wonder?

I have heard that SP1 kills them.

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and
patience, so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using
up disk space?

If they don't work why keep them?

 

[Peter Foldes]

Turn OFF or Disable your Anti Virus and then do a System Restore in Safe Mode.
Norton installed by any chance?

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

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[Jumbo Jack]

that's why I dumped Norton years ago.....it does things it should not.

 

[Andy]

It does because you would remove SP1 and the reg would be looking for files
no longer on the system
but in most cases you can uninstall SP1 or any SP under the
install/uninstall programs part of windows

 

[Jeff Layman]

I know that Norton Internet Security 2009 by default prevents System
Restore from working. Whether they've fixed it in later releases, I have
no idea: I've abandoned that program.

Somewhere in its configuration, the 2009 version has a check mark next
to something like "Protect this program from changes". Uncheck it and
System Restore works.

Since I haven't had the program running for a long time, I can't recall
the details.

Oops - I lied. I have a record of it.

<QUOTE>
System Restore with Norton IS
Open NIS
-> Computer Settings
-> Misc
-> Turn OFF Product Security Tamper Protection
</QUOTE>

Can't remember what 2009 did with XP (but I don't remember it
interfering with System Restore). With Win7HPx64 NIS 2011 has a
Miscellaneous setting for "Norton Product Tamper Protection" under
"Product Security".

 

[Jeff Layman]

Turn OFF or Disable your Anti Virus and then do a System Restore in Safe
Mode. Norton installed by any chance?

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

Why would anyone have Norton 2006/7 installed on a Win7 system? The
link to the Norton info - and then to a Symantec page - appears to refer
to Norton 2009 or earlier.

FWIW I used system restore without deactivating NIS2011 first. Went OK
without any problem.

 

[Peter Foldes]

Why would anyone have Norton 2006/7 installed on a Win7 system? The link to the
Norton info - and then to a Symantec page - appears to refer to Norton 2009 or
earlier.

FWIW I used system restore without deactivating NIS2011 first. Went OK without
any problem.

So? It also applies to what I posted. Anti Virus interference. Norton and some other
AV's are very good at that. Norton Today or Norton yesterday ,the link is there for
a guidance.

BTW: What if the OP Upgraded his OS all the way from XP to Vista to Win 7 and kept
Norton. Just a question. It can be possible but not likely

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[Jeff Layman]

So? It also applies to what I posted. Anti Virus interference. Norton
and some other AV's are very good at that. Norton Today or Norton
yesterday ,the link is there for a guidance.

Yes, but that page is headed "Troubleshoot System Restore “Restore Point
Failures” in Windows XP". Out of interest, where did you find a link to
that page? I couldn't see it under the "System Restore in WinXP"
heading. Did it come from the forum?

BTW: What if the OP Upgraded his OS all the way from XP to Vista to Win
7 and kept Norton. Just a question. It can be possible but not likely

That's a fair point, although as you say not likely. I'm not sure if
Norton 2006/7 would even run in Win7, and if it did I reckon incessant
requests to update would soon have it turned off!

 

[relic]

I have heard that SP1 kills them.

It removes them, it doesn't just make the useless.

 

[relic]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is worth
two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored.
Anything to do with Service Pack 1, I wonder?

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and patience,
so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using up
disk space?

Windows XP Disk Cleanup allowed me to remove restore points, but I don't
see a similar option in Windows 7.

They get corrupted somehow. In System Properties, turn System Restore off
and reboot. That will remove ALL of your restore points... now you can turn
it back on and any corruption will be gone.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

that's why I dumped Norton years ago.....it does things it should not.

Did you see this in my post?
"Whether they've fixed it in later releases, I have no idea: I've
abandoned that program."

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Can't remember what 2009 did with XP (but I don't remember it
interfering with System Restore). With Win7HPx64 NIS 2011 has a
Miscellaneous setting for "Norton Product Tamper Protection" under
"Product Security".

Looks a lot like what you quoted just above...so it probably indicates
that the problem is still there :-(

Of course, I should have mentioned to the OP that the above only applies
if he has NIS.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Did you see this in my post?
"Whether they've fixed it in later releases, I have no idea: I've
abandoned that program."

I forgot to add "so, as you can see, we are in agreement" - sorry, too
quick on the trigger.

 

[Brian Gregory [UK]]

I forgot to add "so, as you can see, we are in agreement" - sorry, too
quick on the trigger.

That's pretty much my view about Norton programs too.

But I do use Norton GoBack 4.02 on my Win XP box and V3.21 on a really
ancient box I run Win ME on.
Some of their old DOS stuff was okay too.

 

[ray]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is
worth two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored. Anything to do with
Service Pack 1, I wonder?

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and
patience, so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using
up disk space?

Windows XP Disk Cleanup allowed me to remove restore points, but I don't
see a similar option in Windows 7.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to why it's necessary to have all
these 'restore points' anyway. I'm not familiar with anything like that
for Linux, but then Linux systems seldom blow themselves out of the water
- this IS the 21st century.

 

[ray]

Don't know why, but not one single restore point on this machine is
worth two cents.
Not even in safe mode can the system be restored. Anything to do with
Service Pack 1, I wonder?

Fortunately, I was able to fix my problem with a little time and
patience, so I no longer need to run System Restore.

Can (or should) I delete those restore points since they're only using
up disk space?

Windows XP Disk Cleanup allowed me to remove restore points, but I don't
see a similar option in Windows 7.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to why it's necessary to have all
these 'restore points' anyway. I'm not familiar with anything like that
for Linux, but then Linux systems seldom blow themselves out of the water
- this IS the 21st century.

 

[Big Steel]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:20:10 -0400, Big Punk wrote:


Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to why it's necessary to have all
these 'restore points' anyway. I'm not familiar with anything like that
for Linux, but then Linux systems seldom blow themselves out of the water
- this IS the 21st century.

The short answer is this. No one cares what you think. Now run along
and go to Japan and sit next to one of those nuclear power plants.

 

[ray]

The short answer is this. No one cares what you think. Now run along
and go to Japan and sit next to one of those nuclear power plants.

Ah - very enlightening response. In other words, you have no clue.