adminisrator

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Stewart

I am running a 64 bit desktop with windows 7. I am listed as the
administrator and the guest account is off.
From yesterday I have been denied access to the "c" drive ( it is the only
drive) and get a message "C:\ is not accessible, Access is denied".
Likewise if I try to delete a folder or file on the desktop.
I had fitted a firewire card and the computer recognised that but I do not
see how that can be the problem. Also I installed some software but when
the problem arose I uninstalled it all and then did a system restore to the
12th December, all to no avail.
The computer had been a demonstration unit in comet before I bought it so
there is a possibility that the name "user" is that in the registry however
that should not affect me as the registered owner and administrator.
Does anyone know how I can remedy this other than doing a clean install from
my windows back up?
Thank you
 
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Big Steel

I am running a 64 bit desktop with windows 7. I am listed as the
administrator and the guest account is off.
From yesterday I have been denied access to the "c" drive ( it is the
only drive) and get a message "C:\ is not accessible, Access is denied".
Likewise if I try to delete a folder or file on the desktop.
I had fitted a firewire card and the computer recognised that but I do
not see how that can be the problem. Also I installed some software but
when the problem arose I uninstalled it all and then did a system
restore to the 12th December, all to no avail.
The computer had been a demonstration unit in comet before I bought it
so there is a possibility that the name "user" is that in the registry
however that should not affect me as the registered owner and
administrator.
Does anyone know how I can remedy this other than doing a clean install
from my windows back up?
Thank you
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You really are not admin on the computer with that account Win 7 gives
as being admin. You don't have full admin rights in some situations, and
it would take to know how to set those permission rights for your admin
account to get those rights.

The true admin account with full rights on Win 7 is in the link, and any
admin account that is created does not inherit admin full rights from
this account.

<http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...idden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/>
 
P

Philip Herlihy

I am running a 64 bit desktop with windows 7. I am listed as the
administrator and the guest account is off.
From yesterday I have been denied access to the "c" drive ( it is the only
drive) and get a message "C:\ is not accessible, Access is denied".
Likewise if I try to delete a folder or file on the desktop.
I had fitted a firewire card and the computer recognised that but I do not
see how that can be the problem. Also I installed some software but when
the problem arose I uninstalled it all and then did a system restore to the
12th December, all to no avail.
The computer had been a demonstration unit in comet before I bought it so
there is a possibility that the name "user" is that in the registry however
that should not affect me as the registered owner and administrator.
Does anyone know how I can remedy this other than doing a clean install from
my windows back up?
Thank you
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You might find this useful - run the commands in a Command Window.
http://superuser.com/questions/339071/where-to-see-the-list-of-
administrators-in-windows-7

Of course, if you can right-click the command-window icon (search for
cmd.exe) and pick "Run as Administrator" then you already have all the
(potential?) privileges you need. Then you need to look into Taking
Ownership, and granting Full Control (as appropriate). See:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753659.aspx

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/windows-7-access-denied-
permission-ownership/

Note the icacls command-line utility can save and restore permissions
settings for a folder hierarchy.
 
S

Stewart

Thank you both; I have followed your instructions and at the moment am back
in control. I shall keep a copy of your advice lest I need it again.



"Philip Herlihy" wrote in message

I am running a 64 bit desktop with windows 7. I am listed as the
administrator and the guest account is off.
From yesterday I have been denied access to the "c" drive ( it is the only
drive) and get a message "C:\ is not accessible, Access is denied".
Likewise if I try to delete a folder or file on the desktop.
I had fitted a firewire card and the computer recognised that but I do not
see how that can be the problem. Also I installed some software but when
the problem arose I uninstalled it all and then did a system restore to
the
12th December, all to no avail.
The computer had been a demonstration unit in comet before I bought it so
there is a possibility that the name "user" is that in the registry
however
that should not affect me as the registered owner and administrator.
Does anyone know how I can remedy this other than doing a clean install
from
my windows back up?
Thank you
Click to expand...
You might find this useful - run the commands in a Command Window.
http://superuser.com/questions/339071/where-to-see-the-list-of-
administrators-in-windows-7

Of course, if you can right-click the command-window icon (search for
cmd.exe) and pick "Run as Administrator" then you already have all the
(potential?) privileges you need. Then you need to look into Taking
Ownership, and granting Full Control (as appropriate). See:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753659.aspx

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/windows-7-access-denied-
permission-ownership/

Note the icacls command-line utility can save and restore permissions
settings for a folder hierarchy.
 
C

Char Jackson

I am running a 64 bit desktop with windows 7. I am listed as the
administrator and the guest account is off.
From yesterday I have been denied access to the "c" drive ( it is the only
drive) and get a message "C:\ is not accessible, Access is denied".
Likewise if I try to delete a folder or file on the desktop.
I had fitted a firewire card and the computer recognised that but I do not
see how that can be the problem. Also I installed some software but when
the problem arose I uninstalled it all and then did a system restore to the
12th December, all to no avail.
The computer had been a demonstration unit in comet before I bought it so
there is a possibility that the name "user" is that in the registry however
that should not affect me as the registered owner and administrator.
Does anyone know how I can remedy this other than doing a clean install from
my windows back up?
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If it were me, I would have done a clean install immediately upon
taking possession of the machine. With its history as a demo unit,
there are too many unknowns. When you did a System Restore, you went
from one unknown state to another unknown state.

Note that a clean install is not the same thing as a "clean install
from a windows backup". Use a legitimate Windows 7 media and install
the OS properly. Until then, who knows what you're dealing with.
 
K

Ken Blake

If it were me, I would have done a clean install immediately upon
taking possession of the machine. With its history as a demo unit,
there are too many unknowns. When you did a System Restore, you went
from one unknown state to another unknown state.

Note that a clean install is not the same thing as a "clean install
from a windows backup". Use a legitimate Windows 7 media and install
the OS properly. Until then, who knows what you're dealing with.
Click to expand...

Double ditto!
 
S

Stewart

Ken, I note your comment but may have a problem with this.
The only disks I have are a windows 7 64 bit repair disk that I made when I
bought the machine as well as 4 number "Asus" backup disks again that I made
when set up computer.
Obviously I know the licence number for windows 7 but that is no use without
a proper installation disk.
Also the computer came with Microsoft Office 2010 installed on a one month
trial and I supplemented that by paying to have the key for "Office Home and
Student 2010" but once again I have only the product key and no installation
disk.
All in all it looks as if I shall just have to put up with a "clean install
from a windows backup".
Thanks again.






"Ken Blake" wrote in message

If it were me, I would have done a clean install immediately upon
taking possession of the machine. With its history as a demo unit,
there are too many unknowns. When you did a System Restore, you went
from one unknown state to another unknown state.

Note that a clean install is not the same thing as a "clean install
from a windows backup". Use a legitimate Windows 7 media and install
the OS properly. Until then, who knows what you're dealing with.
Click to expand...

Double ditto!
 
C

Char Jackson

Ken, I note your comment but may have a problem with this.
The only disks I have are a windows 7 64 bit repair disk that I made when I
bought the machine as well as 4 number "Asus" backup disks again that I made
when set up computer.
Obviously I know the licence number for windows 7 but that is no use without
a proper installation disk.
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Installation media can be downloaded from the web (digitalriver.com)
in ISO form, which can then be burned to DVD. That, along with your
valid license key, is all you need to do a clean install. Direct
download links can be found with Google, or holler if you need help.
Also the computer came with Microsoft Office 2010 installed on a one month
trial and I supplemented that by paying to have the key for "Office Home and
Student 2010" but once again I have only the product key and no installation
disk.
All in all it looks as if I shall just have to put up with a "clean install
from a windows backup".
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I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that
Office is likewise available for download. Even if it's not, it's
possible that Microsoft would be willing to send you replacement media
for a nominal fee.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Thanks again to all, you have been very helpful. As I am almost 80 I am no
longer so astute/sharp as I once was so appreciate all the help I can get.
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You needn't play the age card: nobody knows everything they need to know
at *any* age :)

And a lot of those people won't ask for or listen to advice, so you're
ahead of the game there as well...
 
S

Stewart

gene, I was not trying to be cynical but I am finding that I do appreciate
help a lot more these days, perhaps not so much with my computers but in
general.
10 years ago I would probably have spurned the need for anyone to help me.

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

Thanks again to all, you have been very helpful. As I am almost 80 I am
no
longer so astute/sharp as I once was so appreciate all the help I can get.
Click to expand...
You needn't play the age card: nobody knows everything they need to know
at *any* age :)

And a lot of those people won't ask for or listen to advice, so you're
ahead of the game there as well...
 
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Gordonbp

Maybe this information will be of some help:

Is it possible to install and OEM copy of MS Office 2007 that was
preinstalled on one PC on a new PC without having the installation DVD
disc? -

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/SoftwareProblems.htm#installoem
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Sorry that answer is WRONG. An OEM version CANNOT be installed on a
different machine from the one it is first activated on.

From the OEM Software Licensing restrictions:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/licensing_faq.aspx#fbid=uLs728FlqpH


License Transfers*
OEM Software may NOT be transferred to another machine. Even if the original
laptop, PC or Server is no longer in use, or if the software is removed
from the
original hardware, OEM licenses are tied to the device on which the
software is
first installed.
 
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BillW50

Sorry that answer is WRONG. An OEM version CANNOT be installed on a
different machine from the one it is first activated on.

From the OEM Software Licensing restrictions:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/licensing_faq.aspx#fbid=uLs728FlqpH

License Transfers*
OEM Software may NOT be transferred to another machine. Even if the
original
laptop, PC or Server is no longer in use, or if the software is removed
from the
original hardware, OEM licenses are tied to the device on which the
software is
first installed.
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All true! But the OEM license also allows for the replacement of the
hardware. And you are allowed to replace the case, motherboard, RAM,
drives, etc. Although Microsoft has never clarified what part must still
exist to be tied to the OEM license. Some have speculated that maybe
just one original screw or cable of the original OEM machine is still
left and you are still good to go.
 
C

charlie

All true! But the OEM license also allows for the replacement of the
hardware. And you are allowed to replace the case, motherboard, RAM,
drives, etc. Although Microsoft has never clarified what part must still
exist to be tied to the OEM license. Some have speculated that maybe
just one original screw or cable of the original OEM machine is still
left and you are still good to go.
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A specific OEMs version of windows may differ from a "generic" OEM version.

One of the "controls" is information stored in BIOS that amounts to an
OEM "ID". What is interesting is that many OEMs buy motherboards, not
make them. As a result, not a few of the more commonly used OEM
motherboards my have multiple OEM "ID"s stored in BIOS. For that matter,
it's not horribly difficult to change the data in BIOS, given the
utilities to do so.

I.E. Dell's ID and others, possibly including the motherboard OEM.

An OEM windows CD/DVD may be sort of a generic to that OEM version
That is tied to a given machine or series when it is first installed/used.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

There's a difference between cannot and may not. Or might be.
From the OEM Software Licensing restrictions: []
OEM Software may NOT be transferred to another machine. Even if the
original
laptop, PC or Server is no longer in use, or if the software is removed
from the
original hardware, OEM licenses are tied to the device on which the
software is
first installed.
Click to expand...
All true! But the OEM license also allows for the replacement of the
hardware. And you are allowed to replace the case, motherboard, RAM,
drives, etc. Although Microsoft has never clarified what part must still
exist to be tied to the OEM license. Some have speculated that maybe
just one original screw or cable of the original OEM machine is still
left and you are still good to go.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
The hardware hashing allows for so many changes per so many months, to
allow for upgrading and defect remedying; if you change too much in too
short a time, it at least asks you to re-register ...
A specific OEMs version of windows may differ from a "generic" OEM version.
Click to expand...
.... but I'm not sure if OEM versions of application software (like the
Office 2007 Gadfly is mentioning) have the same hardware hashing built
in as Windows itself (which I believe has it for OEM and non-OEM
versions - just not for bulk-licencing ones, and I'm not even sure if
that's still true after XP).
One of the "controls" is information stored in BIOS that amounts to an
OEM "ID". What is interesting is that many OEMs buy motherboards, not
make them. As a result, not a few of the more commonly used OEM
motherboards my have multiple OEM "ID"s stored in BIOS. For that matter,
it's not horribly difficult to change the data in BIOS, given the
utilities to do so.

I.E. Dell's ID and others, possibly including the motherboard OEM.
Interesting.

An OEM windows CD/DVD may be sort of a generic to that OEM version
That is tied to a given machine or series when it is first installed/used.
Click to expand...
So that would mean that "Dell Windows 7" DVD for example would exist in
several versions (for the different machines Dell were offering at the
time it was produced)?
 
C

charlie

So that would mean that "Dell Windows 7" DVD for example would exist in
several versions (for the different machines Dell were offering at the
time it was produced)?
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Yes, but perhaps for different reasons, such as included drivers, etc.
It's certainly possible to take a "generic" OEM version, "customize" it
on the fly as it were, based upon the hardware series, or even a
particular configuration. It depends upon how much effort and so forth
the OEM wants to get into. Usually, a significant part is "fluff", to
make the products look unique in some way.

Not a few corporations buy a large lot of more or less identical
systems, with or without windows "fully" installed. They then customize
or reinstall to meet "requirements". They may then have the OEM actually
accomplish the customization, or insist upon doing it themselves as a
matter of configuration control.

There are a fair number of "options" that can be accomplished with OEM
installation and configuration software, before windows is "locked in"
to a specific machine. On some OEM systems, if you remove the hard
drive, don't boot it, make a complete backup, etc., it's possible to
significantly modify the OEM's install sequence before it really gets going.

It's, for instance, possible to make a specialized bootable from USB
version that, when used, allows extensive modification of the OEM on HD
supplied version before it's "first time run" by the end user.

An OEM might use this capability to modify a "bulk" version install
before the system is shipped to add updates or specific customer
requirements.
 
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