64 bit?

[Todd]

Hi All,

I have a customer with an hard drive that Windows can not
see. (Unreconigsed volume. W7 PE disk finds the drive,
but can not read it.)

Fortunately, Linux Xfce Live CD can see the drive, so
I can recover her stuff.

Question: the windows directory has a directory in it called
"WOWpop64" (I may have some of the letter reversed). May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Many thanks,
-T

 

[Ken1943]

Hi All,

I have a customer with an hard drive that Windows can not
see. (Unreconigsed volume. W7 PE disk finds the drive,
but can not read it.)

Fortunately, Linux Xfce Live CD can see the drive, so
I can recover her stuff.

Question: the windows directory has a directory in it called
"WOWpop64" (I may have some of the letter reversed). May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Many thanks,
-T

Yes. My 32 bit doesn't have it, but my 64 bit has a wow? directory.


KenW

 

[Monty]

Hi All,

May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Click on Start / r-click on Computer / click on Properties

 

[Todd]

Click on Start / r-click on Computer / click on Properties

By chance did you miss the part about "unrecognized volume"?
I can only see this disk from Linux.

When W7 works, <win><Break> is a fast way to get to it too.

-T

 

[Todd]

Yes. My 32 bit doesn't have it, but my 64 bit has a wow? directory.


KenW

Cool. Thank you!

 

[Ken Blake]

Click on Start / r-click on Computer / click on Properties

That's one of several ways to get to that screen. But the easiest way
is hold down the Windows key and press Pause|Break.

 

[Monty]

By chance did you miss the part about "unrecognized volume"?
I can only see this disk from Linux.

No, I didn't miss that. When I read your opening statement <I have a
customer with a hard drive that Windows can not see>, I assumed that
you could boot Windows but had another hard drive that Windows could
not see. Can you boot Windows, at all?

 

[Todd]

No, I didn't miss that. When I read your opening statement<I have a
customer with a hard drive that Windows can not see>, I assumed that
you could boot Windows but had another hard drive that Windows could
not see. Can you boot Windows, at all?

Thank you for the feedback. I can now see where you misunderstood.
I was not clear. My technical writing is a work in progress.
It helps when folk correct me, especially when they are nice
about it, like you were.

No, only one hard drive. Windows freezes on boot up. My Windows 7 PE
disk (like Bart PE for W7) sees the drive, but thinks it has zero
length. Linux Xfce Live CD has no problem seeing the disk, meaning I
can back up the data first, if I have to wipe the drive. I should
probably back up the data before trying to do the recovery too.

-T

 

[Monty]

That's one of several ways to get to that screen. But the easiest way
is hold down the Windows key and press Pause|Break.

That is certainly the fastest way. However, my "customers" are
friends and neighbors who tend to be new to PCs. Hence, my method of
helping them includes encouraging them to at least have a look through
the various menus and observe the menu items.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Thank you for the feedback. I can now see where you misunderstood.
I was not clear. My technical writing is a work in progress.
It helps when folk correct me, especially when they are nice
about it, like you were.

No, only one hard drive. Windows freezes on boot up. My Windows 7 PE
disk (like Bart PE for W7) sees the drive, but thinks it has zero
length. Linux Xfce Live CD has no problem seeing the disk, meaning I
can back up the data first, if I have to wipe the drive. I should
probably back up the data before trying to do the recovery too.

-T

I didn't have any trouble with what you meant, but I can also see why
Monty read it differently.

I'd say it was just one of those variations of interpretation - no blame
for you, no blame for Monty.

So blame me instead? Why not!

 

[Todd]

So blame me instead? Why not!

That's him! He's the one! I don't know what yet,
but he did it! :-D

-T

p.s. it is much more fun when your are not the one
to blame.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

That's him! He's the one! I don't know what yet,
but he did it! :-D

-T

p.s. it is much more fun when your are not the one
to blame.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Hi All,

I have a customer with an hard drive that Windows can not
see. (Unreconigsed volume. W7 PE disk finds the drive,
but can not read it.)

Fortunately, Linux Xfce Live CD can see the drive, so
I can recover her stuff.

Question: the windows directory has a directory in it called
"WOWpop64" (I may have some of the letter reversed). May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Actually, I've never seen a WOWpop64 directory, but I have seen a
SysWOW64 directory.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Todd]

Actually, I've never seen a WOWpop64 directory, but I have seen a
SysWOW64 directory.

Yousuf Khan

I knew I was mangling it.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I knew I was mangling it.

Oh, okay so you really meant SysWOW64 rather than WOWpop64? I was
thinking maybe the reason you were having trouble booting from it was
because of this directory name.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Todd]

Oh, okay so you really meant SysWOW64 rather than WOWpop64? I was
thinking maybe the reason you were having trouble booting from it was
because of this directory name.

Yousuf Khan

The partition was so badly mangled that I had to use Linux gParted
to remove it. W7 installer couldn't.

I mangle names a lot.

 

[posterboy]

Hi All,

I have a customer with an hard drive that Windows can not
see. (Unreconigsed volume. W7 PE disk finds the drive,
but can not read it.)

Fortunately, Linux Xfce Live CD can see the drive, so
I can recover her stuff.

Question: the windows directory has a directory in it called
"WOWpop64" (I may have some of the letter reversed). May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Many thanks,
-T

I'd like to ask you how you were able to view your hard drive(s) when
you loaded the Live CD? I ask because last night I had a Win7 (64)
problem (NTLDR not found) and wanted to copy the email directory to one
of my other drives before I restored the drive with the previous image.
I could not find for the life of me how to use any program I could see
on the Linux desktop (PCLinuxOS, from 2007). And I looked at a lot of
programs that were loaded on the Live CD.

I would have thought there would be a simple file manager that I could
see my other 4 HDDs in the PC but I couldn't find these drives no matter
what I did. I suspect it was just because I'm completely ignorant of
Linux terminology. So there really isn't a simple File Manager like
there is in Windows that shows all one's hard drives so one can copy
needed information?

(BTW it turned out the BIOS changed from booting from the right drive to
one that didn't have an operating system. Good thing I found that out
before I restored the C:/ drive!)

John

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Posterboy.

I don't mean to hijack this interesting thread, but...

...I had a Win7 (64) problem (NTLDR not found)...

That's neither a Win7 problem nor a 64-bit problem.

Win7 does not use NTLDR at all. NTLDR was used only with WinXP and prior,
not with Vista or Win7 (or Win8). When Win7 is installed in a dual-boot
system with WinXP, and when the user selects "Previous version of Windows"
from the opening menu, then Win7's BOOTMGR loader file gets out of the way
and turns control over to NTLDR to load WinXP. So, failure to find NTLDR is
a WinXP problem, not a Win7 problem, even on a dual-boot system.

This applies to both 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, so it's not a 64-bit
problem, either.

I know nothing about Linux, so I'll stay out of that discussion.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"posterboy" wrote in message

Hi All,

I have a customer with an hard drive that Windows can not
see. (Unreconigsed volume. W7 PE disk finds the drive,
but can not read it.)

Fortunately, Linux Xfce Live CD can see the drive, so
I can recover her stuff.

Question: the windows directory has a directory in it called
"WOWpop64" (I may have some of the letter reversed). May
I presume this is a 64 bit installation?

Many thanks,
-T

I'd like to ask you how you were able to view your hard drive(s) when
you loaded the Live CD? I ask because last night I had a Win7 (64)
problem (NTLDR not found) and wanted to copy the email directory to one
of my other drives before I restored the drive with the previous image.
I could not find for the life of me how to use any program I could see
on the Linux desktop (PCLinuxOS, from 2007). And I looked at a lot of
programs that were loaded on the Live CD.

I would have thought there would be a simple file manager that I could
see my other 4 HDDs in the PC but I couldn't find these drives no matter
what I did. I suspect it was just because I'm completely ignorant of
Linux terminology. So there really isn't a simple File Manager like
there is in Windows that shows all one's hard drives so one can copy
needed information?

(BTW it turned out the BIOS changed from booting from the right drive to
one that didn't have an operating system. Good thing I found that out
before I restored the C:/ drive!)

John

 

[Paul]

I'd like to ask you how you were able to view your hard drive(s) when
you loaded the Live CD? I ask because last night I had a Win7 (64)
problem (NTLDR not found) and wanted to copy the email directory to one
of my other drives before I restored the drive with the previous image.
I could not find for the life of me how to use any program I could see
on the Linux desktop (PCLinuxOS, from 2007). And I looked at a lot of
programs that were loaded on the Live CD.

I would have thought there would be a simple file manager that I could
see my other 4 HDDs in the PC but I couldn't find these drives no matter
what I did. I suspect it was just because I'm completely ignorant of
Linux terminology. So there really isn't a simple File Manager like
there is in Windows that shows all one's hard drives so one can copy
needed information?

(BTW it turned out the BIOS changed from booting from the right drive to
one that didn't have an operating system. Good thing I found that out
before I restored the C:/ drive!)

John

This is PCLinuxOS 2009 and it has familiar icons on the left for file
system manipulation. If "My Computer" doesn't do it for you, you
should be able to navigate up and down with "Home".

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/PCLinuxOS-2009-1-Sticks-With-KDE-3-5-10-2.jpg

Even the 2007 version has icons of that type, on the left.

http://images.gfx.no/322/322897/Desktop-564x376.png

The menu before the desktop appears, is to select how you want
to run the thing. I would expect the "LiveCD" option would be
workable and that's the default (with "hands off keyboard", it
likely starts in that mode).

Paul

 

[Todd]

I'd like to ask you how you were able to view your hard drive(s) when
you loaded the Live CD? I ask because last night I had a Win7 (64)
problem (NTLDR not found) and wanted to copy the email directory to one
of my other drives before I restored the drive with the previous image.
I could not find for the life of me how to use any program I could see
on the Linux desktop (PCLinuxOS, from 2007). And I looked at a lot of
programs that were loaded on the Live CD.

I would have thought there would be a simple file manager that I could
see my other 4 HDDs in the PC but I couldn't find these drives no matter
what I did. I suspect it was just because I'm completely ignorant of
Linux terminology. So there really isn't a simple File Manager like
there is in Windows that shows all one's hard drives so one can copy
needed information?

(BTW it turned out the BIOS changed from booting from the right drive to
one that didn't have an operating system. Good thing I found that out
before I restored the C:/ drive!)

John

Hi John,

Cut following Live CD ISO to disk:

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/17/Spins/i686/Fedora-17-i686-Live-XFCE.iso

Make your BIOS bootable first to DVD/CD.

Boot up the Live CD. Both your stick and your hard drive will
show up as icons on the desktop. Double click on them to mount them.
(Live CD may not be able to mount the hard drive, but will tell you
if there is a problem.)

Then drag what you want to your stick.

HTH,
-T